Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Diesel > Bio-diesel, Propane & Alternative Diesel Engine Fuels
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?


Welcome to Ford-Trucks Forums!
Welcome to Ford-Trucks.com.

You are currently viewing our forums as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join the Ford-Trucks Forums community today!





 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 10-25-2004, 08:29 PM
fordnut74 fordnut74 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Lake Stevens, WA
Posts: 258
fordnut74 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Blackstone results- before and after VEG OIL

Got my results back on my oil samples, One was taken from my first oil change which was run on only diesel, and one was from my most recent oil change, run mostly on Veg oil. A few items went up a small amount, most notably the sodium. Not sure what that indicates, or what problems it will cause, if any. These small changes may be due to the Veg Oil, or the added stress of the MODS I have done. Either way, They say there is nothing to worry about. Also noted was that my oil was still in good shape at 5,600 miles, so I may bump my interval up to 7, 500 for this cycle and retest.
Here are the links to the Normal and Veg Oil samples
__________________
99 SD PSD, CC, SB, 4X4, Phantom gages, bypassed wastegate, a/p regulator to avoid defuleing, Home made SVO kit, Edge Evolution, 6637 air filter, straight piped exh, 15.2@86 1/4 mile
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-25-2004, 11:21 PM
RedStroker6's Avatar
RedStroker6 RedStroker6 is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: China Grove, TX
Posts: 1,358
RedStroker6 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Fordnut, did you have to refine the oil somehow before you used it? i had heared of vegie oil used w/diesel, but not as a motor oil replacement. is there a thread somewhere i can find out more? sounds spiffy...
__________________
Adam
95 f250 PSD ZF5. Twin 5" stacks, 5.6K, 6637, Kenwood Deck, 2 Kicker CVR 10's, Audiobahn amp, AutoMeter Pyro. ugly truck but my gal loves it
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-25-2004, 11:32 PM
Kwikkordead's Avatar
Kwikkordead Kwikkordead is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: North Seattle, WA.
Posts: 22,216
Kwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputation
http://www.facebook.com/http://facebook.com/Kwikkordead#!/Kwikkordead
Do they test for glycerin in the oil?
__________________
Dan
1999 F550 4x4 ZF6 pulling a Cedar Creek 36RLTS. Lotta mods.
1999 VW Jetta TDI 5speed stick, Titan 520's, CCV, EGR, CAT.
2000 VW Passat 1.8t Tiptronic. ZZOOOOOMMMM!!!
You cannot explain or explain away the power of God.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-25-2004, 11:47 PM
psdpower's Avatar
psdpower psdpower is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Forest Hill, MD
Posts: 637
psdpower is starting off with a positive reputation.
RedStroker, he is using it as fuel not as engine oil, the engine oil analysis is just used as a way to gauge how well the engine is running.
__________________
Early 99 F250 XLT 4X4 6-spd ISSPRO gauges, 2.5 inch lift, 315/75/16 Cooper A/Ts, Clamp, Tymar, 4 inch ITP dp, 4 inch straight pipe, CCV mod, DI BRV, boost tube, EBPV brake, dynoed 238 hp, 588 lb-ft
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-25-2004, 11:51 PM
Kwikkordead's Avatar
Kwikkordead Kwikkordead is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: North Seattle, WA.
Posts: 22,216
Kwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputation
http://www.facebook.com/http://facebook.com/Kwikkordead#!/Kwikkordead
Hey Fordnut you need to relax restrictions on your MSN groups there. It's asking for a .NET username and password.
__________________
Dan
1999 F550 4x4 ZF6 pulling a Cedar Creek 36RLTS. Lotta mods.
1999 VW Jetta TDI 5speed stick, Titan 520's, CCV, EGR, CAT.
2000 VW Passat 1.8t Tiptronic. ZZOOOOOMMMM!!!
You cannot explain or explain away the power of God.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-26-2004, 06:20 AM
RedStroker6's Avatar
RedStroker6 RedStroker6 is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: China Grove, TX
Posts: 1,358
RedStroker6 is starting off with a positive reputation.
gotcha...i thought it sounded a little bit odd. the links said i was forbidden, so couldn't read further into what he posted.
__________________
Adam
95 f250 PSD ZF5. Twin 5" stacks, 5.6K, 6637, Kenwood Deck, 2 Kicker CVR 10's, Audiobahn amp, AutoMeter Pyro. ugly truck but my gal loves it
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-26-2004, 06:24 AM
Black88GT's Avatar
Black88GT Black88GT is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 642
Black88GT is starting off with a positive reputation.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kwikkordead
Hey Fordnut you need to relax restrictions on your MSN groups there. It's asking for a .NET username and password.
That was harder to get out of than **** when the wife walks in
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-26-2004, 07:19 AM
fordnut74 fordnut74 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Lake Stevens, WA
Posts: 258
fordnut74 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Quote:
That was harder to get out of than **** when the wife walks in
LMFAO, Thats funny.

I am not sure why it was restricted, never used to be, but It shouldn't be anymore.
__________________
99 SD PSD, CC, SB, 4X4, Phantom gages, bypassed wastegate, a/p regulator to avoid defuleing, Home made SVO kit, Edge Evolution, 6637 air filter, straight piped exh, 15.2@86 1/4 mile
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-26-2004, 09:08 AM
Kwikkordead's Avatar
Kwikkordead Kwikkordead is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: North Seattle, WA.
Posts: 22,216
Kwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputation
http://www.facebook.com/http://facebook.com/Kwikkordead#!/Kwikkordead
Quote:
Originally Posted by fordnut74
LMFAO, Thats funny.

I am not sure why it was restricted, never used to be, but It shouldn't be anymore.
Leave it to Microsoft to screw things up. As of tuesday morning, it's still requiring a .NET username and password.
__________________
Dan
1999 F550 4x4 ZF6 pulling a Cedar Creek 36RLTS. Lotta mods.
1999 VW Jetta TDI 5speed stick, Titan 520's, CCV, EGR, CAT.
2000 VW Passat 1.8t Tiptronic. ZZOOOOOMMMM!!!
You cannot explain or explain away the power of God.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-26-2004, 10:02 AM
fordnut74 fordnut74 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Lake Stevens, WA
Posts: 258
fordnut74 is starting off with a positive reputation.
you know, sometimes I really don't like Microsoft. trying it out from my work computer I am having the same problems. So I did some typing, conversions, cut and past and posted a barely legible copy on my galleries, hopefully HERE The left column is the veg oil, middle column is my trucks average, and the right is the diesel only
__________________
99 SD PSD, CC, SB, 4X4, Phantom gages, bypassed wastegate, a/p regulator to avoid defuleing, Home made SVO kit, Edge Evolution, 6637 air filter, straight piped exh, 15.2@86 1/4 mile

Last edited by fordnut74; 10-26-2004 at 10:11 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-26-2004, 11:45 AM
Kwikkordead's Avatar
Kwikkordead Kwikkordead is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: North Seattle, WA.
Posts: 22,216
Kwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputation
http://www.facebook.com/http://facebook.com/Kwikkordead#!/Kwikkordead
That time I was able to see it. Iron's kind of high with the veggie. You might want to stick with diesel until the engine is FULLY warmed up so that glycerin will burn better. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the cylinder walls going due to washdown.
__________________
Dan
1999 F550 4x4 ZF6 pulling a Cedar Creek 36RLTS. Lotta mods.
1999 VW Jetta TDI 5speed stick, Titan 520's, CCV, EGR, CAT.
2000 VW Passat 1.8t Tiptronic. ZZOOOOOMMMM!!!
You cannot explain or explain away the power of God.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-26-2004, 03:55 PM
RedStroker6's Avatar
RedStroker6 RedStroker6 is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: China Grove, TX
Posts: 1,358
RedStroker6 is starting off with a positive reputation.
what kind of milage do you get per gallon of diesel when you run the veggie oil? or is it the same, just less diesel use per mile? er....something like that
__________________
Adam
95 f250 PSD ZF5. Twin 5" stacks, 5.6K, 6637, Kenwood Deck, 2 Kicker CVR 10's, Audiobahn amp, AutoMeter Pyro. ugly truck but my gal loves it
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-26-2004, 04:52 PM
RedStroker6's Avatar
RedStroker6 RedStroker6 is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: China Grove, TX
Posts: 1,358
RedStroker6 is starting off with a positive reputation.
ok...after doing some more informed reading on some of Fordnuts other posts, i understand better now. who woulda thought the engine could run on straight veggie oil? makes me wanna try it out now....is there a website somewhere that will tell me more? besides biodiesel...that stuff doesn't sound too super yet because of the prices.
__________________
Adam
95 f250 PSD ZF5. Twin 5" stacks, 5.6K, 6637, Kenwood Deck, 2 Kicker CVR 10's, Audiobahn amp, AutoMeter Pyro. ugly truck but my gal loves it
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-26-2004, 07:35 PM
Kwikkordead's Avatar
Kwikkordead Kwikkordead is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: North Seattle, WA.
Posts: 22,216
Kwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputationKwikkordead has a superb reputation
http://www.facebook.com/http://facebook.com/Kwikkordead#!/Kwikkordead
www.greasel.com
www.greasecar.com
__________________
Dan
1999 F550 4x4 ZF6 pulling a Cedar Creek 36RLTS. Lotta mods.
1999 VW Jetta TDI 5speed stick, Titan 520's, CCV, EGR, CAT.
2000 VW Passat 1.8t Tiptronic. ZZOOOOOMMMM!!!
You cannot explain or explain away the power of God.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-26-2004, 07:49 PM
fordnut74 fordnut74 is offline
Senior User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Lake Stevens, WA
Posts: 258
fordnut74 is starting off with a positive reputation.
Wow, I really need to crawl out from under my rock more often, Only after ken notified me that he moved my thread, did I realize there was an alternative fuels section added But in that respect cool!!

Redstroke- there are several sites that have various info on this topic, the three I frequent the most are greasel.com, alternative fuels at The Diesel Stop, and http://www.vegburner.co.uk/index.html. It is kind of hard to keep track, but on a recent 2,500 mile road trip to Vegas and back I figure I averaged 15mpg, running only SVO.

Quote:
That time I was able to see it. Iron's kind of high with the veggie. You might want to stick with diesel until the engine is FULLY warmed up so that glycerin will burn better. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the cylinder walls going due to washdown.
Kwik- I called Blackstone to voice my(your) concern on the high iron. They said that at this point it is nothing to worry about, and the increased levels are moe than liekly due to the fact that I have increased the power of the motor almost 50% since the first sample was done. I am going to do another oil change at the same 5,600 mile interval with no other changes to the motor to establish a baseline for my motor from which to referance future analysis. Each motor has its own distinct wear patern, and can change a small amount based on type of oil, change interval, operational usage, and MODIFICATIONs . The lady I talked with was the one who did my analysis, and said that there isn't anything I should be concerned at this point.
__________________
99 SD PSD, CC, SB, 4X4, Phantom gages, bypassed wastegate, a/p regulator to avoid defuleing, Home made SVO kit, Edge Evolution, 6637 air filter, straight piped exh, 15.2@86 1/4 mile
Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2004, 07:49 PM
Reply

Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums > Diesel > Bio-diesel, Propane & Alternative Diesel Engine Fuels

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:36 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Statement - Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. FordŽ is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.

vbulletin Admin Backup