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Old 10-09-2004, 09:07 AM
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534 torque

how much torque did the early 534 put out? has anyone managed to put one in a half or 3 quarter ton?
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In 1959, the 534 was rated at 490 foot-pounds @ 1800-2300 Rpm.

I don't know of anyone who ever put one in a pickup.
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Old 10-09-2004, 04:15 PM
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what years did they make them. if in the 60s it would have more torque. did they have much hp? i have never seen one and i want to know if it could fit in a f150 or f250. i suppose the aftermarket is zero to none for this engine, but if it had over 500 ft lbs you wouldnt have to do much. also are the dimensions much bigger then a 460? and whats the weight?
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what years did they make them. if in the 60s it would have more torque. did they have much hp? i have never seen one and i want to know if it could fit in a f150 or f250. i suppose the aftermarket is zero to none for this engine, but if it had over 500 ft lbs you wouldnt have to do much. also are the dimensions much bigger then a 460? and whats the weight?
In 1980, the 534 was still rated at 432 ft-lbs of torque @ 2100 RPM. It was rated at 227 HP @ 3200 RPM. Keep in mind that, in 1972, the SAE changed the way they rated engines. Before 72, they were rated at the flywheel with no ancillary equipment attached and operating. After 72, they were rated with ALL ancillary equipment available and running. That, plus emissions requirements, lowered the RATED power of the engines. Actually, the newer SAE standard was a bit more honest than the old standard.

I can't recall any speed equipment for the Super Duty engines. Basically, they were torque engines, used for medium trucks and for industrial applications. They were also used for some marine applications. They were never intended to be modified extensively. They simply had too large of a centrifugal mass to turn at any fast RPM's.

Trying to put one of them in a F-series pickup would require a war pensioner's supply of money to even attempt. For one thing, the engines were very heavy. For another thing, they used the SAE round bellhousing bolt pattern. No other Ford V8 bellhousing matches the SD's--although the FE's are relatively close in geometry but NOT in spacing nor size. Thirdly, they are so tall, from oil pan sump to breather, that most stock F-Series hoods couldn't close.

You could do much more for much less money to build and/or modify an existing Ford truck light duty engine and putting it in your half- or three-quarter-ton pickup.

PHYSICALLY, they are larger than the Lima engines (370, 429, and 460). However, the "little" SD (477) was, of course, only 17 CUBIC INCHES OF DISPLACEMENT larger than the 460.

The 1980 534 produced 432 ft-lbs. of torque; the 1980 460, as installed in F-Series truck chassis, produced 339 ft. lbs. of torque @ 2400RPM. It doesn't take a great deal of work--or even money--to get the 460's torque figures highly COMPARABLE to the SD's.
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REad all the posts, esp

http://www.fordtruckenthusiasts.com/...d.php?t=220095

These are obsolete. NO aftermarket except maybe some marine stuff hanging on the wall someplace in the Florida panhandle.

At 1000 lbs, your PU would be a joy in corners with this motor.

There have been many in 1/2 and 3/4 pu's. In the bed.

These, the Hall-Scott, the GMC V6's were the last relics of the 19 cent gasoline days and were replaced by newer squeeze fire oil burners.

Read on. Note the reference deep in the Hall Scott story about "consuming heroic quantities of gas...."

http://www.northern.edu/diasr/hall-scott.html

Also, this site will allow you to PO folks who say a V6 can't make torque like a straight 6. These motors were the direct competitors to the Ford 401-477-534, as well as Ford's 300 six in smaller trucks. There is a Ford dump truck on this site with one of these bad boys installed. Ford dealer must have really po'd that guy...

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Sorry, I goofed around doing this post, so you already got some good info on the previous post, but do go read that FTE post above, and if you like big gas motors, you'll like the others too.

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sounds like my 460 is definitly a better and more practical engine. its a mid 70s engine and last i read it produces 395 ftlbs stock. i have advanced the cam 4 degrees and put a 750 holley on it, so im sure its already over 400ftlbs. sounds like a 460 could easily beat a 534 in output, plus its 300 lbs lighter...
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Yessireesir. The 534 was replaced by the diesels and the 370 & 429 truck engines. Not quite as out of date as a steam locomotive, but close.....
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when i first heard of a 534 i thought with that many cubes it would have to produce serious power. but the 460 isnt far behind. i think my f150 is torqey enough with a 460. if i take off hard it feels like something is gonna give, but its always the tires... well the 534 just isnt a performance engine. its got enough cubes but all set up for low rpm, and its freakin heavy! guess ill make power from what i got. thanks for the info guys........
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they are cool engines though i have one of the early ones on a pallet and it is huge
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Im supriesed the torqe output is so low on these engines. If you got creative I think you could get some decent power out of em. Like getting the heads ported, Put a Holley 850 on, and make your own headers. I think this would help considrbly. Stock my 66 352 put out around 350ftlbs of torqe at 3500rpm. Now its closer to 400ftlbs with my mods. If there was an aftermarket, that would be cool.
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From a performance standpoint, all the 534 has going for it is cubic inches. It is large, very heavy, and has a pretty screwed up head design. A bigger carburetor and a port job would be an improvement, but what can you do after that? Lima's have much more potential. The 534 was an impressive heavy truck gas engine in it's day, but installed in a pickup would be pretty much an oddity and not all that fast.
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Seems like the addition of a GM 6-71 supercharger would work well with the low stock compression ratio. This engine sounds like a very robust low RPM stump puller. If you made more power but keep the RPM in the stock range it might stay together.

I also heard a roomer that there was an after market engine builder that was taking this engine and converting in to a diesel engine.
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Adding a 6-71 or converting to diesel would be excellent projects for the anyone with more money than brains.
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I would agree, some people have more money and time then they know what to do with. Whish I sufferd from that!
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