Mazda 5speed in Ranger????

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 12-19-2004, 02:13 PM
Old Yblockman's Avatar
Old Yblockman
Old Yblockman is offline
Freshman User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Mazda 5speed in Ranger????

Is it possible to use a 93 Mazda 5 speed behind a 2.3 if I change the bell houseing to one from a Lima 2.3 5 speed. The tranys sure look a lot alike.
 
  #2  
Old 12-19-2004, 02:40 PM
FLgargoyle's Avatar
FLgargoyle
FLgargoyle is offline
Fleet Mechanic
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Travelers Rest SC
Posts: 1,941
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
As far as I know, most Rangers ARE Mazda trannies. They used Mitsubishi and Toyo Kogyo in the older ones, but I think they went to mostly Mazdas. (Ford owns Mazda). There's a lot of good tranny info on the Ranger Station website in their tech articles.
 
  #3  
Old 12-23-2004, 02:04 AM
AlfredB1979's Avatar
AlfredB1979
AlfredB1979 is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Alvin, Texas.
Posts: 1,978
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Mazda 5-speeds have integral bells...they can't be swapped.

If you thought The B2300 and Ranger are different, then as noted, they are not.
 
  #4  
Old 12-23-2004, 10:08 AM
dots's Avatar
dots
dots is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
mazda has used a 4 and five speed over the years in their cars and pickups that use a clutch housing that is held on with 8 bolts. it was so the same transmission could be used between the RX series and piston engines. later when they started to use ford engines in the ranger trucks and also some of the aerostars they had a housing that fit the 2300 (pinto) style motor. weather Mitsubishi or Mazda or Toyo Kogyo or Jatco built it I have no idea, but I know theyve been useing that same design since 1974 with the cast aluminum bottom cover. and the ones with this cover have clutch housings that bolt on and interchange with some other applications incl. some mitsubishi trucks and maybe some others. wow I did not intend this to be this long! hope this helps some.
 
  #5  
Old 12-23-2004, 04:12 PM
Old Yblockman's Avatar
Old Yblockman
Old Yblockman is offline
Freshman User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks Guys. Im finding out that what dots said above is true. I went to Pull Apart yesterday and found a 4 speed made this way.
 
  #6  
Old 12-24-2004, 03:26 PM
RichS's Avatar
RichS
RichS is offline
Junior User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Didn't Mazda change over to Rangers in '93? So that 93 Mazda B would actually be a Ranger clone built here in the US. It would fit behind any US 2.3. You are thinking of the old Japanese-built Mazda B series. It would just be like the Navajo and the Explorer.
 
  #7  
Old 12-24-2004, 04:49 PM
Old Yblockman's Avatar
Old Yblockman
Old Yblockman is offline
Freshman User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The Mazda I have must be an early 93 as it is a old style Japanese built B2600 PU. The reason I have been asking this question is because I want to build a 2.3 Lima with 12-1 pistions in order to run it full time on propane. The 2.3 Lima is a better candidate for the conversion than the Mazda engine. I realize that I have many ather things to adapt and fabricate but if I can make the 2.3 engine fit the trany the battle is half done.
 
  #8  
Old 12-25-2004, 03:13 PM
74crwcb429hibPS4spd's Avatar
74crwcb429hibPS4spd
74crwcb429hibPS4spd is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Does Ford own Mazda 100% or is it just a portion that Ford owns of Mazda?
 
  #9  
Old 12-25-2004, 04:57 PM
RichS's Avatar
RichS
RichS is offline
Junior User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ford is the majority stockholder of 25%. They even have an American sit on the board of Mazda.
 
  #10  
Old 12-25-2004, 05:01 PM
RichS's Avatar
RichS
RichS is offline
Junior User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I believe the 2.3's used in the old Mazda's were Brazilian-built 2.3 versions of the US-built Lima 2.3's so they should bolt up. You could replace it easily enough with a US 2.3.
 
  #11  
Old 12-26-2004, 11:57 AM
dots's Avatar
dots
dots is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
some of the courier & mazda 2.3 engines have both the
2.3 and the 2.0 bolt pattern on the rear of the block too.
I believe this is the same engine (design) as was used in
the old mercury capri's '74-'78 and mustang II's '74-'78.

also on that mazda trans, you can find early to mid 80's
bell housings for the german 2.6/2.8/2.9/4.0 litre V-6 eng.
they were in some rangers and areostars with std trans.
"off Topic" I know, but info is always helpful sometimes.
 

Last edited by dots; 12-26-2004 at 12:07 PM.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
06RANGER
1983 - 2012 Ranger & B-Series
31
01-09-2006 06:05 AM
zigzagg
1983 - 2012 Ranger & B-Series
4
10-22-2005 04:35 PM
minnesotasix
4 Cylinder Engines
1
10-11-2005 11:36 PM
rig_pig30
1983 - 2012 Ranger & B-Series
4
08-14-2005 08:58 PM



Quick Reply: Mazda 5speed in Ranger????



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:09 AM.