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View Poll Results: E-series or chevy express
chevy express 5 13.51%
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Old 08-25-2004, 04:49 PM
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What is the comparative criteria?

The E-series is an old design. The new Express is quite cutting edge (for vans).

AWD option & left side access door & side cargo access for the cargo vans leap frog it over the venerable E-series van.

But they are still butt ugly...
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The Express is a direct (late but direct) response to the success of the E-series vans, GM finally took the next step in '98 and made their cab area larger, and added more leg room.. I would drive both and see which one you like better. They are both going to be extremely reliable.
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If you want to go diesel, get an Econoline--it uses the Power Stroke--where as Chevy still uses the joke 6.5 in the vans.
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where as Chevy still uses the joke 6.5 in the vans.
WHAT?!

I figured they would have put the Duramax in the vans instead of the disgrace to a diesel 6.5.

Can you believe they still the use 6.5 in Hummers? Why don't they at lest put the Duramax in them? At least it's better than the 6.5.
I was talking to a guy that was in the army. He says he wishes they would out the Duramax in Hummers.
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WHAT?!

I figured they would have put the Duramax in the vans instead of the disgrace to a diesel 6.5.

Can you believe they still the use 6.5 in Hummers? Why don't they at lest put the Duramax in them? At least it's better than the 6.5.
I was talking to a guy that was in the army. He says he wishes they would out the Duramax in Hummers.
The Duramax is too big for the vans, and they do not want to put forth the effort to make it fit.
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The Duramax is too big for the vans, and they do not want to put forth the effort to make it fit.
I didn't figure it was that much bigger.
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I didn't figure it was that much bigger.
Its another fine example of cost cutting. All of the GM vans still use the 6.5, its cheaper to make a cheap diesel and stick it in a cheap van, and then make money off replacement parts--therefore GM loves the 6.5L.
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Actually I thought GM had dropped the diesel option from the Express/Savannah with the 2003 redesign. Last time I checked out the specs they only offered the 4.3L V-6 and the 4.8/5.3/6.0 V-8s.

I think GM is ahead with some options, like AWD, and the available long wheelbase on 2500 and 3500 vans. However, I think Ford is ahead in the style, reliability, and engine dept, offering the V-10 and Powerstroke, although the diesel is de-tuned in the Econoline.
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However, I think Ford is ahead in the style, reliability, and engine dept, offering the V-10 and Powerstroke, although the diesel is de-tuned in the Econoline.
Yeah, it does have just 20 lb. ft. more torque than the V-10. I think it had something to do with that they couldn't fit something in there and they left it out, reducing the power. I know none of the older E-Series with the 7.3 had an intercooler because of lack of space.
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I is the lack of an intercooler that cuts the power output on the PSDs.

The new Express doesn't have a diesel optionn that I'm aware of. That 6.5L boat anchor is only used (unfortunantly) in the very vehicles that move the greatest fighting force the world has ever seen.
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I is the lack of an intercooler that cuts the power output on the PSDs.

The new Express doesn't have a diesel optionn that I'm aware of. That 6.5L boat anchor is only used (unfortunantly) in the very vehicles that move the greatest fighting force the world has ever seen.
The newest minibus that my HS got before I graduated in May was an '04 Express Chassis cutaway with the 6.5 diesel and Thomas body.
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No kidding?! I thought they retired that hunk of crap...
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I is the lack of an intercooler that cuts the power output on the PSDs.

That 6.5L boat anchor is only used (unfortunantly) in the very vehicles that move the greatest fighting force the world has ever seen.
I know. Why don't they at least put the Duramax in them. At least it is better than the 6.5.
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I know. Why don't they at least put the Duramax in them. At least it is better than the 6.5.
I don't see how they can claim professional grade engineering there.
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