Was Ford sleeping? Diesel development
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Was Ford sleeping? Diesel development
With gas prices so high, the mpg is very important to me. My '89 F-150 with 5.0 liter V-8 only gets about 16. My father's Golf TDI gets >40 with a torkey and sporty 1.9 litre 110 hp Diesel engine. I wish, Ford would develop an engine rivallign the Tuareg's V-10 Diesel... Here in Thailand, about 85% of all cars and trucks are Diesel powered.
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Originally Posted by Monsta
Maybe you should drive one first...
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Exploder seems kinda the same size as a Toureg. I bet an exploder would be a might fine ride with the 3.2 Hi pressure direct injected turbo oil burner that MBenz has in their E320. 201 HP @ 4200 RPM and 369 lb-ft @ 1800-2600 RPM.
Add a half inch to the stroke of that bad boy and you'll have to put Dana 60's under your exploder.....
Add a half inch to the stroke of that bad boy and you'll have to put Dana 60's under your exploder.....
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Also I reckon a BMW 535d engine would be pretty impressive. A 3.0l inline 6 Turbo Diesel with 272hp and 413lb/ft of torque (thats not a misprint ). Bolt two of these engines to a common crank in a v12 configuration, and I would have one under the hood of my F-350 in place of the PSD... This engine (the 6 cylinder) came 4th in the Paris Dakar rally in a BMW X5, so must be pretty reliable...
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Originally Posted by Budly
The toureg doesnt rival anything ford has to put a diesel in. and no 1.9L no matter HOW souped up will never be "torkey and sporty" I would love to see the idea of a V10-V12 diesel engine implemented in a 1 ton truck. With the HP Ft lbTorque wars, we very well might..... someday
the main reason for running more, and more cyl is to smooth them out, but to make them into an engine compartment they have to reduce the centerlines of the bores this you end up with a piston the size of a 1.9L 4cyl with less hp, and torque per cubic inch as you add cyl.
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
That Beemer makes the E320 motor look like a delicate flower of an oil burner.
Is it a high pressure direct injection like the MB?
Is it a high pressure direct injection like the MB?
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Originally Posted by monsterbaby
why would you want a V10-V12 diesel, it didn't work very good for detroit
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V12s have the best balance. I would love to drive one.
A v12 is essentially two inline sixes.
http://thrashercharged.com/tech_htm/...ne_design.shtm
Inline 6 cylinders 4 strokes with three crank positions are inherently extremely well balanced and vibration free and do not require any additional countershafts. All primary and secondary inertia forces and moments can be completely eliminated.
http://thrashercharged.com/tech_htm/...ne_design.shtm
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well bigF350 I guess I can see your point, but I have a diesel for towing, and it walks circles around the v10s, and 460s when we are headed to the races, and when I am pulling loaded corn wagons out of fields ( and please I don't want the dsl vs gas war here, I have both, and prefer MY diesel over my gas for towing, my preference not a point for battle) you mention more pistons equalling shorter stroke well maybe, but it also means smaller lighter parts which equates to less longevity, and strength, plus if I want a high reving engine I will by the gas, but for the pulling I want an engine that makes it's power down low for pulling out of the hole, not something that I have to rev to the sky to make power, Another example when i was still farming I had 2 trucks, first a GMC 1ton dually with a 454, second was a ford F150 I-6, the dually had 4.11 gears tje F150 had 3.08 but for running down the road at 70mph with a load that 454 was the ticket but when I wanted to pull 2 grain wagons out of the field with 300bu of corn on each one I used the F150 because frankly that 6cyl would flat out pull the V8 big block hands down no contest.
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monsterbaby. You are dead right a 6 sylinder would be much more preferable in such a situation, I use my F-350 predominantely for towing an 8000-9000lb load at around 90-95mph on a dead flat road, so mid range to top end power is pretty important to me. I admit if I was towing this kind of load out of a paddock at low speed a 6 cylinder engine would be much more preferrable. Maybe 2 diesel engine options is the only logical way to go... An inline 6 for those who low down torque is important, and a V12 for those that need/want more mid range and top end power. One can only hope, but for the moment the PSD seems to have the best spread of power (despite the fact we can't get the 6.0l yet...).
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