I heard that Ford is going to be bringing back a V6 for the '05 F-150. Is it going to be the old 4.2?

 

I also hear rumors of the Inline 6 coming back, is this true also?

 

I'm not sure of an I-6 but I've also heard that Ford is still tinkering with the idea of a V6 diesel of some kind. Originally it was simply going to be chopped 6.0L PSD resulting in a 4.5L V6 but this apparently had problems and was ultimately abandoned. However, word is Ford is still interested in a small diesel of some kind for the F-150. Anyway, the only I-6 that I know of that Ford actively builds is a 4.0L DOHC engine that is used in the Australian Ford Falcon and a couple of other models over there. No truck application as far as I know. An engine like that sounds like it would be good on paper though. I did the conversion from metric and when it comes to horsepower, it puts out 237@5000RPM. Pound-feet of torque is 280@3250RPM. Not bad if you ask me, but importing it from Australia sounds expensive.

 

That would be one kick *** motor, as long as it's relaible. I saw it the other day too when I was checking out what Ford makes for the rest of the world. The diesel V-6 was originaly dropped due to emmissions requirements of 1/2 tons, due to the sulfer content of out diesel. Don't expect to see it unitl we switch over to low sulfer diesel in a few years.

 

Ah, I suppose that means the U.S. Ranger could get that 2.5L I-4 diesel that all Rangers outside the U.S. get once we make that switch. I wonder if it's any good.

Anyway, back to the V6, from another thread I saw, it seems that the '05 F-150 will be getting the old 4.2 again, but, they say it's going to get a bump in power. So, the new question for this thread is: how powerful will the 2005 F-150's V6 be?

 

According to the Specs page here at FTE, it will get a bump of 8 ft-lbs and get the same HP but at 450 RPM less, meaning it should be better suited to handle the extra weight of the new truck, but may not be as much of a high winder as you guys are accustomed to.

 

The 4.2 is coming back in 2005 and it's supposed to have the same power numbers.

 

Not according to FTE's specs page
2005:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/specs/2005/2005_f150_1.html
2003:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/specs/2003/2003_f150_1.html

 

The 4.2L V-6 is back for 2005. The spec pages are accurate. It got a little more torque, but same horsepower, not sure about the peak RPMs.

To my knowledge there hasn't been any serious discussion about bringing back an Inline 6.

The 4.5L V-6 Powerstroke was planned for the F-150, but was not used due to problems with emissions. It is being used in a new Cabover truck shared between Ford and International.

Ford is said to be working on building their own V-6 diesel for the F-150 and other light duty applications, probably due out after low-sulfer fuel comes to market.

 

the 4.2 will be offered in the regular cab short bed models, ONLY.

Garrett

 

Hmm, so the 2005 will have 8 ( YES I SAID 8!) more lb/ft of torque. Wooptyfriggindoo. Buy a chip for an older model and you blow that number out of the water. Let alone intake/exhaust. That disappoints me so much. Why doesn't Ford get their crap together and give the V6 some power if the truck is so much bigger!

 

I agree joe...Here are the curb weights:

2003 4.2L manual, styleside - 3,990

2004 4.6L - 4,788

2005 4.2L manual, styleside - 4,615

2000 Supercab 4.2L, styleside - 4,204

My truck would absolutely own an 04 4.6L, IMHO. I also think I would own an 05 4.2L, stock to stock.

Garrett

 

I'm not trying to start somethig here, just letting you know that there is a change. I agree that it won't be nearly enough power to make up for the weight, just better suited than the previous 4.2, especially since it doesn't have to rev as high to make power. It seems like Ford doesn't plan to sell many with the V-6 anyways, so they're not going to bother to design a better motor, which is too bad since it was a good motor on the lighter weight models. I imagine now it will be an absolute dog.

 

The V6 will be redesigned sooner or later, it's just that Ford has gotten back onto stable financial ground only recently and hasn't had much time to bring in new technology everywhere at once. The 4.2 was selected simply because it's readily available and cheap to build but not so bad in the areas of performance or reliability, otherwise there would be more pressure on Ford to replace it because sales would go down. However, as I mentioned in another thread, I believe there may be some potential with the upcoming "Duratec 35," Ford's 3.5L DOHC V6. I'm not saying that specific engine should replace the 4.2L Essex but instead that the technology behind the engine could be used to make a replacement, such as a "Duratec 40" or something. It already said in the article that announced the production of the Duratec 35 that the engine architecture could, and would, be used to start a new family of engines, which implies a potential replacement for the F-150's V6. Such an engine would most certainly be the most sophisticated and powerful V6 ever used in the F-150, given the fact that the Duratec 35 is alread rated at 245HP and 240lbs.-ft. or torque, and that's from an engine that's over half a liter smaller than the 4.2L Essex. Imagine if it were the same size!

 

Yup, it's time for a freakin' change in power. I was really exited about the 4.2 at first. The power was pretty decent for a brand new V6. Now, after a Diablo Chip, MAC Intake, and a Flowmaster, it's not much difference in power. It's got only 14k on it and it feels like it's crappin' out already. Sometimes I really do miss my 4.3.