Maybe it was designed to be a POS, once again just another shot in the dark.
Seriously though it would be interesting to see how the cam worked in a Cleveland, unfortunately I don't have one laying around.

Sanders

 

Danlee,
guess I keep my fingers away from bigger intake valves ...

The 265DEH seems to be the best for my 400, Sanders recommendes it, too.

Also I´ll think about the cr I wanna reach because of Eric´s "good luck wishes",
perhaps it´s better to do some less head milling and stay under 9.5 cr ...

O.K. thank you all for your suggestions, you were -again- very helpful.

P.S.: I´ll be on vacation for a week, so if you have more informations - I´ll be
back soon!

 

Boy I'm digging this post out of the graveyard LOL.

Sanders asked how well Edel2172 works in a cleveland. I wish I had found this thread before I got this far.

My C is on the stand, in shortblock form. It has the Edel cam in it. When I get it together and the EFI running, Im going to try and find an engine dyno in my area. Im using 2v heads decked .010, and kb177's. Best i can calculate is around 9.25:1 comp ratio.

Im efing the engine. The ecu will control the advance. I would assume it would control the retard as well. I may have to set a 3 degree advance on the chain to start. The ecu can advance more it if need be. If this cam causes compression leak on the longer rod ratio engines, then it most definately will on the short rod ratio of the C. My chain is set at 0. But its a comp gear set and ithas +/-3 markings. If im going to advance it now is the time while its still shortblocked.

Edit: just for reference, im not biulding a monster engine. Im building a cruiser. EFI and Overdrive.

 

I would return the cam, however we had to chamfer the mains on the cam. Apearantly whoever grinds them for edelbrock sucks. So since it been modified, its bought and paid for and will get used.

I thought i was buying good quality pistons with KB's. They came with all sorts of sharp edges on them. And the wrist pins wouldnt even fit. We had to hone them out.

 

Dobie,

oh my .... you did some deep diggin`, had to re-read the whole thread to remember my trouble with cam choose back then.

Sounds like some nice modifications on your Clevo, sorry to read about the bad luck with the KB´s. I would definately return the Edi cam and grab a comp or crane or lunati. Guess the Edi specs are even more worse for your Clevo than for my 400, you should go with a 275 or 285 deg. (adv.) .... but there will be some more experienced clevo-guys here to help you out.

 

Maybe there`s some interest in how my story ended.

I went with a comp 265DEH, roller rockers and some 10.5:1 CR KB flat top pistons from TMI. Ended up with detonations because I didn´t know octane ratings are different in the US and Europe and all my calculations were based on US specs.

Did a cooler thermostat, cooler spark plugs and less ignition but didn`t help.
So I fitted 0.080" head gaskets from Cometic to reduce the DCR. Much better now, I´m happy with a LOT of power and grunt.

 

Well like i said im going to give it a shot. By advancing the timing at the chain, I can get he overlap a little earlier. Im mosty worried about top dead center on the intake stroke. At the bottom of the stroke im not so worried. The shorter rod engine has a longer dwell at the bottom of the cylinder, its the same effect a long rod engine gets at the top of the cylinder. Its the short rod that makes think it will be ok. I should be able to play with the advance pretty good, and the ecu should be able to compensate the spark.

A C is not a 400. This cam should be ok, And well to be honest I can always change it later. But for now, its there to get the engine running.

 

Going back through some of my paperwork from Summit. The Edel cam being in my order at the time got me free shipping on my whole order. I ordered from upper intake manifold to oil pan in one shot. 8 packages from 4 locations. The only thing from the original engine im using is the rods, crank, block, heads, timing cover. So even though I bought a "terd cam", Im guessing I broke even on the shipping it saved me. I could hear my wallet cry when the trick flow 2v upper and lower manifold hit the shopping cart.

More food for thought. I am going to run a 5 speed behind the cleveland. This cam does its best work in the mid range, which is about all this engine will ever see. I seriously doubt I will be over 4k very much, and will cruise at about 1900 rpms in OD at 55 and roughly 2100 at 65.