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Old 05-18-2004, 01:25 PM
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Sorry to post right away again, but Bob I kind of got something like that in writing. The "GOOD" dealership i was at did put that the sporadic revving up and down was normal for this motor to do that and that ford didn't have a fix for this.

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I have been having a rev up problem only when I have driven for awhile at a sustained speed and come to a stop. It revs up to 2,000 rpm's and back down. Is this what you are talking about or are you talking about the surge issue they had?
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Jasff, this surging was corrected with one of the flashes...

Powerstrokedieselboy,
the dealership said it was normal ?
I promise you that's not Ford -
WE probably get along with Ford better than some of the dealers :-)

Don't I recall the Ford dealers sueing Ford a few years ago ?

I know if I have a problem with a dealership, I will try to work it out with them, if not, I will go to another dealer and see what treatment I get...
Then we start talking to Ford....

but just like ONE Kwik Kar oil change has ruined me from ANY OTHER Kwik Industries franchise because Kwik corporate chose not to respond to my complaint ! Eventually even 30 or 40 year customers can be forced to go elsewhere...

but I can tell u this, my Ex is the BEST travelling vehicle I've ever owned...
only problem is now it's ruined me for any other vehicle !!!
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Old 05-18-2004, 02:11 PM
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Jasff, this surging was corrected with one of the flashes...

Powerstrokedieselboy,
the dealership said it was normal ?
I promise you that's not Ford -
WE probably get along with Ford better than some of the dealers :-)

Don't I recall the Ford dealers sueing Ford a few years ago ?

I know if I have a problem with a dealership, I will try to work it out with them, if not, I will go to another dealer and see what treatment I get...
Then we start talking to Ford....

but just like ONE Kwik Kar oil change has ruined me from ANY OTHER Kwik Industries franchise because Kwik corporate chose not to respond to my complaint ! Eventually even 30 or 40 year customers can be forced to go elsewhere...

but I can tell u this, my Ex is the BEST travelling vehicle I've ever owned...
only problem is now it's ruined me for any other vehicle !!!
Well it is stated on my serivce order as follows:

"Cust states that vehicle will rev up by itself appx 1,000 rpm to 1,200 rpm in drive and park, Verified concern. However per FORD info. This is a characteristic of this vehicle and no repair attemp is to be performed at this time."

This is what my last repair order said on it. What you think????

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[quote=jdadamsjr]Jasff, this surging was corrected with one of the flashes...
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I just had the flash brought up to date a week ago and it does a weird idle up when I stop after traveling for awhile. I am not sure it was the surge problem to begin with. It was almost like someone accidently left there foot on the accelerater when they pressed the clutch and the first few times it did it I thought maybe I had done that. After awhile though I realized it was doing it on its own. If it was only going up to 1200 rpm's I would not be as worried but it hits 2k when it does it. I am really happy with the truck except this unexplainable issue that I am not seeing posted anywhere else is really weird.
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Sorry to post right away again, but Bob I kind of got something like that in writing. The "GOOD" dealership i was at did put that the sporadic revving up and down was normal for this motor to do that and that ford didn't have a fix for this.

I was wondering if this was "NORMAL" than a new 04' 6.0 should do this on the lot, A?

What due you think of that Bob? Did Ford put themselves out on a line there??? Just wondering what ya'll think. The part where ford called htis normal is listed on my repair order also. So it is documented.

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I think what Steve was relaying to us was that his service manager had said that ford had given up on fixing the flash issue. What that entails is much more complicated than what you are describing. I disagree that Ford has made a corporate decision to do that. It would be crazy. The problems are fixable.

I think what you are describing used to be (in the old days maybe 10+ years ago) called "romping". Probably every diesel then did some romping.
In the mid 1970s I ran a D-8H Cat dozer in a Gypsum strip mine. In the morning when I started it, it would romp for 1/2 an hour until it warmed up thoroughly.
It is wrong for them to assume that any kind of problem is "just the way it is". That is a cop-out because they don't how to fix it.

Try another dealer but call around and ask if they have a Ford certified Diesel Mechanic. Most dealerships have code readers and module changers. Not real mechanics.
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Correct, the service manager said that "Ford would probably not do any more." We were talkig about my concerns on the negative effects of the the Oct. and Dec flash. I asked if he had spoke with Ford and he said yes and repeated that he didn't think they were going to do any more. He said if I came there, he would help me write the DSB.
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If I were going to go for a new truck, I think I would wait until the 05s are out. They are supposed to be special.
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Other than the results of the Oct/Dec flash, I like my truck. It runs great and is comfortable. It pulls my boat like there is nothing behind it. Yeah the 04 engines have a bunch of changes, but do the changes make that much difference? Some of us have early 03's that will run with the best of them. I know I have a good truck. Why jump into an 04 that might have a bunch of problems. I'll probably wait it out.
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Other than the results of the Oct/Dec flash, I like my truck. It runs great and is comfortable. It pulls my boat like there is nothing behind it. Yeah the 04 engines have a bunch of changes, but do the changes make that much difference? Some of us have early 03's that will run with the best of them. I know I have a good truck. Why jump into an 04 that might have a bunch of problems. I'll probably wait it out.
Good for you. If I can get my flash saved to disk, I will give it to you. With the Predator in the 65 mode it drives perfect to me.
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My reving up problem was solved with the Oct. flash.
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The "GOOD" dealership i was at did put that the sporadic revving up and down was normal for this motor to do that and that ford didn't have a fix for this.
I've read this a few times now and was wondering.... If they say it's normal, why would Ford say they don't have a fix?
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I've read this a few times now and was wondering.... If they say it's normal, why would Ford say they don't have a fix?
Just doublespeak
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Just doublespeak
Isn’t that being able to speak out of both ends?
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Isn’t that being able to speak out of both ends?
I have been accused of that capability..................only once
I have 3 ex wives who would testify that I have done so. That is why I'm familar with the term.
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