SBV45
From what I have been told the 04/04 are having mixed mpgs some are doing great and others are not doing to good, I try to ask people I see with the new 6.0 how they like them and what kind of mpgs they get and the answer I get the most is I dont know what my mpgs are never keep track just fill up when it gets low.
I think the only people who get 20 MPG drive 50 MPH on a flat road with a 30 MPH tail wind. Never driving 80 in traffic up and down hills and into a headwind.
Point to a non-hybrid vehicle that could drive 80 in traffic up and down hills and into a headwind and get above 20 mpg...
I'm getting 17.3 doing 65-105 mph up/down headwind, tailwind city/highway mix on each tank on average.
I've seen 34.5 mpg on my one ton 4x4 crew king ranch going downhill doing 94 mph however! hahaha
I guess my 17.8 highway with stock tune is not bad.
I think that is very good and about what these trucks should get. The Predator can usually improve it slightly and Power Service addative will help some too. I think the predator if added early in the truck's life will more than pay for itself in fuel savings. Mine went from 17.0 to 17.5.
It may also increase the cost of replacing burnt rubber and traffic tickets.
I have to say it over and over again "MY TRUCK ROCKS!"
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03 6.0 SC Short bed 2WD Auto
Preditor, Gages, K & N FIPK
I am going through the DSB right now. I haven't heard anything from them yet, and i just sent my papers out last Monday. It just depends on how fed up with the truck you are?
For me, I have been without my truck for over 55 days since I bought it last November. the truck does the Revving up and down sporadicly, which they pretty much told me they couldn't fix. The truck has had a rear main seal and a gasket at the back of the motor. It has had numorus other issue's, but not going there right now.
Good luck on what ever you decide. I will let ya'll know how it goes with the DSB.
TN Mac, I ranover one of those the other day, sorta sounded like running over an aluminum can. Plus you can't tow up to 12500 pounds.
PSDboy, That's the dilemma. I am not fed up with it. Yes, I had two rear main seals replaced. No it's not drippy any more. I have had a few other things in the first 10,000 miles that the dealer fixed to my satisfaction. It runs great. My wife thinks it is more comfortable than her Honda. This truck really runs well. I got a "great" report on my last oil analysis that said:
Quote:
You can see your engine maturing in wear as it passes the 10,000-mile mark. The potassium
and sodium, which were factory leftovers, are washing out, just like they’re supposed to. Wear looks
good. We didn't find any fuel in this oil sample, so it looks like you've got a 6.0L engine with good
injectors! Insolubles (oil oxidation due to heat, use and blow-by) were low at 0.3%, showing good oil
filtration and complete combustion. No moisture or coolant was present in the oil. Looks like a nice
engine! No problems found.
So what is my problem? Ford screwed up with the Oct/Dec flashes. I have been told by both the dealership service manager and Ford Customer Assistance that "engineering is aware of the problem and is working on it." That to me means there is a problem acknowledged by Ford. Now, they are saying they are not going to do anything! So, I have lost fuel economy, performance, quietness, tow/haul mode problems, etc. They took away some of the key features. Is my truck running poorly? No. It runs good, but not as good as it did prior to the Oct/Dec flashes. Ford is going to wait until those of us that remember pre Oct flash trade up or go away. That is what p's me off. Is it worth the aggravation of going through a DSB and getting an 04 that might not be better than what I have? I don't think so. But I hate to see those corporate empty suits get away with it. They should do the right thing.
Just a note here about MPG I was just over the turbo diesel register and boy people are upset by the new dodge cummins getting very poor mileage I was kind of surprised at that.
SBV45
The jetta comment was in responce to ford1tonrocks comment about any vehicle that can run up and down hills at 80 mph and get goot fuel mpgs, beside hybrid. by the way my son just bought a jetta TDI great car he drove from memphis to nashville last week on 3.8 gallons of fuel, with fuel prices what they are easy to take that.
TN Mac, I ranover one of those the other day, sorta sounded like running over an aluminum can. Plus you can't tow up to 12500 pounds.
PSDboy, That's the dilemma. I am not fed up with it. Yes, I had two rear main seals replaced. No it's not drippy any more. I have had a few other things in the first 10,000 miles that the dealer fixed to my satisfaction. It runs great. My wife thinks it is more comfortable than her Honda. This truck really runs well. I got a "great" report on my last oil analysis that said:
So what is my problem? Ford screwed up with the Oct/Dec flashes. I have been told by both the dealership service manager and Ford Customer Assistance that "engineering is aware of the problem and is working on it." That to me means there is a problem acknowledged by Ford. Now, they are saying they are not going to do anything! So, I have lost fuel economy, performance, quietness, tow/haul mode problems, etc. They took away some of the key features. Is my truck running poorly? No. It runs good, but not as good as it did prior to the Oct/Dec flashes. Ford is going to wait until those of us that remember pre Oct flash trade up or go away. That is what p's me off. Is it worth the aggravation of going through a DSB and getting an 04 that might not be better than what I have? I don't think so. But I hate to see those corporate empty suits get away with it. They should do the right thing.
Who told you that they are not going to do anything about it? Someone in authority? I am counting on Ford eventually getting the flash right. We know it is possible because we both have the green programmer that takes care of most issues.
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03 6.0 SC Short bed 2WD Auto
Preditor, Gages, K & N FIPK
That was according to the service manager at the dealer. I asked if he has spoke to the Ford Area rep. He said yes and he didn't think Ford was going to do anything further. He suggested that if I was unhappy that I start the DSB process which he would help me with.
That was according to the service manager at the dealer. I asked if he has spoke to the Ford Area rep. He said yes and he didn't think Ford was going to do anything further. He suggested that if I was unhappy that I start the DSB process which he would help me with.
Ah! A new rumor!
So far, no one else has got that feedback. Maybe your service manager was just trying to get rid of a source of irritation
Ford would be crazy to put out such a policy. If they decided to abandon us, the class action suit(which I would join) would really cost them. They surely must know we have banded together.
I wouldn't believe it unless I saw something in writing from Ford.
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03 6.0 SC Short bed 2WD Auto
Preditor, Gages, K & N FIPK
I got that feed back from Ricart Ford in OHIO. They were basically hindends about it. They were rude about me having my truck there. So i took it to another Dealership, and they were as nice as can be. They may have just been blowing smoke but they seemd sincere about it.
SBV45,
I fill for you. They told that the DEc flash is the latest and greatest and it made my truck louder and idle a little rough. It kind of shakes the truck when idling. I totally fill for what you are going through. I am thining of contacting the "GOOD" dealership i was just at and see if they can help me with the DSB....
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK????? Should i ask them for help or just keep my mouth shut, and keep my paper work / documentation a secret?????????
Just wondering... Because the truck when it does run right, it run like a scalded dog. But with all the continuing issue's have just pretty much taken the integruity out of my new truck.
Sorry to post right away again, but Bob I kind of got something like that in writing. The "GOOD" dealership i was at did put that the sporadic revving up and down was normal for this motor to do that and that ford didn't have a fix for this.
I was wondering if this was "NORMAL" than a new 04' 6.0 should do this on the lot, A?
What due you think of that Bob? Did Ford put themselves out on a line there??? Just wondering what ya'll think. The part where ford called htis normal is listed on my repair order also. So it is documented.
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