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Old 04-13-2004, 02:59 PM
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Looking for pickup dually rearend

Looking for a dually rear for a 1990 f-350 with factory pickup bed not cab & chassis (Need wide axle) for cheap, or evan trade for a single wheeled axle. I would like 4.10's but could possibly use mine out of a single wheeled axle. Thanks
   
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Had a salvage yard here willing to trade my single wheel 10.25" for a dually 10.25" for 400 in boot. Swap was housing and axles for housing and axles cause the gears were wrong.

Can you not find an axle there at all?
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Firemarshal, I have a dually rear end in a 1986 F350. The dually rear end was transplanted so I`m not sure what year it is or of the ratio. If interested, I could pull the cover and get the ratio and try to get some casting numbers off of the housing. Does your single wheel axle have the speed sensor on the ring gear? I don`t think this one does.
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the cheapest I found here was $600, in bad shape, truck frame was tweeked from a wreck and axle possibly bent. The next cheapest was $1250 and I would have to trade them my axle. All I really know about my axle is that it is a 10.25 single wheel with spacers, it has 4.10 gears with an open diff. I have not had the cover off to tell, Dave could you help us out on that one, would mine have the speed sensor on the ring gear? Also, mine has the ABS on it (doesn't work, but has it)

Horton-racing, how much you looking at, I know shipping will be pretty high to KY from Tx.
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I have been waiting for you to post this since you asked me if I still worked in a bone yard. Ok,here is what I found ya,complete from an 88 $400,complete from a 97$500,this is for a 1990 SWR F350 4:10 W/ABS
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Yes it is for a 1990 srw f350 4:10 w/abs, but I am wanting a dually axle for it cause it was converted using spacers in the rear and that, I don't like. Are these up by you King Triton? I didn't realize you were up so far north.
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i measured the single wheel heavy duty 10.25 i have and the factory rear 10.25 in my dually and the are the same, dually is 1988 and single came out of 89 f250 4wd, large lug studs and all
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Firemarshal - Email me if you are interested. I will cut you a good deal on it as I don`t need the axle. I think my father has one sitting on a pipe rack also. I am pretty sure it was out of a 1987 model dually. If I remember correctly, it has an open 3.55 because he swap it out for a 4.10 LS. I will see if he wants to part with it. I just shipped a ZF tranny to Nevada through Yellow Freight Lines. I think it was around $250. The total weight was 250#. I had to drive 130 miles to deliver it so there would be a fee there also unless we can work out some sort of trade on your 90 F350 SRW rear end. My zip is 77964 if you want to check on some shipping costs. I am located approximately midway between San Antonio and Houston and 50 miles north of Victoria, Texas.
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horton, I would like to get it, but some things just came up which are putting a huge strain on us $ wise. I will post this again, or I will email you and get a hold of you. Hopefully, our situation will only be about a week or two, but who knows, STUFF happens and you just have to deal with it.

Cid--is your dually a cab and chassis? The factory dually pickup will have a 37 1/2" frame width, wereas the cab and chasis with only have a width of 34".
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There is no hurry. It isn`t going anywhere soon. I wonder if it is possible to swap out the hubs, drums and axles on your SRW axle? Do the duallys have sterlings or danas in that year? Are the brakes, axle size and splines the same? Anyone know? Anyway, if you decide later that you want to look into it further, just let me know. Good luck.

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swapping hud etc

Hey horton, it's the tubes that are longer. the pickup version dually axle is abotu 4" wider, compensate for the wider frame. You could put dual wheels on a single wheel fine stud wise, but the wheels will not pass the springs and frame. A cab and chassis single wheel could be changes to duals by just adding dually wheels due to the narrower frame.

I would be more than glad to trade axles or something, I wishj our finances weren't getting hit hard right now.
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Oh, yeah, it is the sterling 10.25
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are you guys saying the srw for 91 f350 are different then a dullie frame , as I was also thinking of doing a swap to the dullie rear , but I want to keep my 3;55 , also how do you tell on a ford what rear housing you have? my truck is a 91 F350 CC Srw , hortin Racing let me know if fire marshell do'es got from you , as I'am just south of houston & can pick up ,
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Here you go.

On a single rear wheel 10.25" Sterling axle, high part of the brake backing plate to high part of backing plate you will measure 54", the frame is 37.5" wide outside to outside.

On a dually that had a factory pickup box with flared fenders the measurement is 58" , the frame is 37.5" outside to outside.

On a factory cab and chassis the backing plate to backing plate measurement is 54", and the frame is 34" outside to outside.

On the cab and chassis 34" frame you can run dual wheels with the 54" housing because the springs are 3.5" closer together.

On the 37.5" frame you need the 58" factory dually rear end housing to run dual wheels.

The cab and chassis rear that has duals on it will not fit a factory pickup box truck without moving the spring perches. Once you do that you can not install the dual wheels because they will hit the springs.

I hope this clears the air, it is a confusing thing they did on the factory dually.

The only other option to put dual wheels on a single wheel truck is spacers.
If you are going to install the dual wheels to gain extra weight carrying capacity, I have been told by a very good driveline specialist that I am better to run single wheels for the loads I carry. The reason for this is because of the changed constant bearing loading when the wheels are moved out 2 inches.

If you are looking to look cool or add a little stability when towing a tag a long trailer that is not loading up the rear of the truck with huge weight, the spacers should be fine.

If you are backing under a heavy fith wheel trailer, or going down to the rock quarry and get 3 or 4 tons of stone, find a dually axle to put the duals on the truck.

Firemarshal is looking for the 58" housing.

On the same year or very close everything is the same, except the housing and the axle shafts. Same bearings, brakes, drums, hubs, punkin and gears.

The newer ones with the antilock brakes and all that other stuff are a little different than the older ones. I am not positive the hubs will change from one to the other for example.
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Dave , thanks for the lessen , on these trucks , I 'am a dodge man & this is only my second ford diesel , now I know to look for the 58' Dullie rear,
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