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Old 04-12-2004, 08:30 PM
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7.3w/ATS vs. Cummins

Just had a question to seddle an arguement between friends. Will a 91 7.3 with the ATS turbo out perform a stock 93 cummins? Both rigs are straight piped.
 
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That's a tough one. Why don't you just go find a hill or hiway and find out, then we'll all know.
 
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I think I could give any Dodge a run for its money with 3 or 4 tons on the back.

Tough call though because,
The inline 6 makes better torque than the same size V8, but the 7.3 V8 is a larger motor.
I work with a bunch of Dodges, they are all talk and no action.
They even have 6 speeds to my 4 speed and the only time they come round is when they know I am out of gear to go faster.
 
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Spectramac,
i just wanted to know what my chances were before I actually tried it out.
 
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Old 04-13-2004, 07:37 AM
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you have a good chance, but I would want more info such as gears, 2wd or 4wd, crewcab, xtra cab reg cab, same type trucks or drastically different, etc. I know I can't do it with my 7.3l turbo, cause I have a crewcab, 4x4 versus a 2wd reg cummins. the weight is in his favor. BUT go for it and see if you can blow his doors off.
 
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I know what you mean Idaho. It depends on how well the guys who turbo'd the truck set it up. Is it a wastegated ATS? How far is the pump turned up? Did they A-time it a little bit? What kinda boost are you getting? I think if all is right you could take him. But you said out perform, we talking heads up 1/4 mile or pulling a pass with a load?
 
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Old 04-13-2004, 01:06 PM
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Both trucks are four wheel drive ex cabs with long beds. We both got a set of 285 tires. The AtS is wastegated. I havent decided yet how to put them to the test. I think the cummins would beat me on the quarter mile, but who cares about how fast a dies is off the line anyway. We have two empty six-horse trailers out back, load them up with an equal amount of firewood and give it hell.
 
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go for it! you got a 50/50 shot at least. If you don't win, you can always say you came in 2nd place!
 
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Don't forget to weigh both rigs to be sure it is an even match.
Do you have a pyrometer and boost guage?
If so how much boost are you getting?
My ATS is putting out 15 pounds of boost and it leaves a light black smoke trail at wide open throttle.
That 2003 Dodge has a six speed?
What do you have?
 
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What kind of tranny does the 93 dodge have.
 
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The 7.3 is manual 5 speed, the dodge is manual as well, I beleive it is also a five speed. I dont have either a pyrometer or boost gauge but am planning on getting one.
 
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I would not try to out pull him till you have a pyrometer.
I have a Reviva reman 7.3 turbo motor in my truck, at the Reviva injection pump fuel settings I can get EGT's that are to hot for the motor.

Running empty on the interstate at 65 up a WVa hill and nail the throttle, EGT 1100 degrees in about three minutes.

I would hate to see you hurt your motor just for bragging rights.
It is not worth it.
 
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Old 04-13-2004, 09:39 PM
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91 Dodge 5.9 .....160HP and 410 ft. Lbs. torque

You can get him if your turbo and fuel are right.
 
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Old 04-13-2004, 10:54 PM
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Allright then, I geuss ill just do my best and see what happens. Ill let you guys know on the end results.
 
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