So, would have gotten the diesel F-150 if it existed?

 

I traded in a 2000 F250 SD with the 7.3. Great truck!!!! It was a SCAB 2WD...but I averaged 20-21 mpg. Had about 60k miles on it without any problems. Ended up moving and selling my 5th wheel camper.....wanted something I could fit in my current garage....and needed 4WD...so I opted for the 150....Nice enough truck....but the diesel would have been better.

 

No question about it.....and, International has it, tested it, and setting on inventory...even built a new plant to build it....then Ford pulled the plug.HMMM

 

We need to show somebody at ford these results

 

ford is funnelling serious diesel truck consumers towards the f250. today's f150 trucks are directly marketed to the lighter use crowd (as we all know). i think the answer to your question depends on what is meant by adopting "diesel". if a really stout and torquey small block diesel (say a 4 liter) could be develped, it might sell but it would have to be one really productive diesel to carry the 2004's porky weight, much less power a loaded 2004 for 200,000 miles. a diesel with "real" diesel capabilites (powerstroke or the 6 liter) will never find its way into the f150 (ford wants to sell the really good f250 series and why would they introduce in house competion for a serious disel?). Not trying to rain on anyone's parade. just my opinion.

 

Doesn't need a 6.0 as like you said it is to much weight.

Somewhere in the 4.7-5+ range would be sweet. 260-300 HP and 450-500+ tq

Engine that will last 300,000+ and the price of diesel is 20 cents cheaper as well as the better MPG!!

 

Yeah the engine would probably last 300k and it would probably take almost half of that before you broke even on the cost difference. I just cant see having a diesel in a smaller vehicle that isn't used for towing all the time. To me the noise, vibration, extra maintenance costs etc aren't worth it. The extra power would be nice when you needed it but for most driving it's not neccessary.
That's just my $.02 worth.
And yes I dont mind if you argue with me

 

Hey Racerguy new member here, but I'll go ahead and argue you. Diesels are louder and not as smooth, but they are much better now, and continue to get better. My 02 golf tdi isn't any louder (once slightly warmed)than most gasoline cars from the early 90's even when they were new. As for maintenance, maybe I don't know something about these bigger diesels, aren't diesels LESS maintenance? Maybe they take more oil to fill and maybe more often (I don't know), but they don't have ignition systems to worry about.Ok they do need fuel filters more often.

A smaller diesel would suffice for me(4.0 turbo), I don't tow heavy loads very often and it would be nice to have a full size truck that will regularly get >25 mpg. I think most of the non-commerial buyers would fall into this category as well. Diesels are more expensive initially but if you sell it with 30K or 60K miles your going to get a large % of that money back at resale (from my research), if you keep it till it dies then it also pays for itself. As far as extra power not being neccessary, we must come from two different worlds . You can even make your own fuel for under 50 cents a gallon if it came to it. Sorry for the long post but I like to start with a bang.
Please discuss

 

i would get the diesel, have you guys seen the burnouts the 250 diesels from bullydog? it seems pretty easy to up the power on diesels. i dont know much about how engine works but if i do some work to it i could still run regular diesel right? but if start chipping and other mods to a regular engine wouldn't i start having to run 91; that would cost so much esp. for a truck.

 

On the note of the f-150's weight problem I think a 4.0 turbo with low to mid 200hp and just under 400 tq #'s would move truck along more than adaquetly. especially once chips were available. It wouldn't be a stop-light racer but for the way 90% of people would drive it 90% of the time it would move it as well or better than a 300hp 5.4 (definetly better than 4.6) Do yourselfs a favor,all you non-believers, go test drive a 90 hp VW diesel, then go drive a 90 hp honda gasser. Unbelievable difference in around town and hill ascending power th VW feels like it has half again as much power. Gassers move faster once in their powerband, but my diesel is always in it powerband. Not trying to turn this into a VW thread this is just what I have to compare. I am also an f-150 owner (99 Lariat scab 4.6). If Ford wants to sell me a new truck they have to put this thing on the market.

Did they scrap it because of emmisions? In 2007 we will have the cleaner fuel and that would definetly help in this area. Hmm, that is just about the time I will need a new truck. I also have two uncles who would jump on this truck in a heartbeat. Are you listening Ford?

 

I am stationed over in germany and before i was over here i would have said you were a fool to get a diesel if you are not going to pull trailers alot. But after seeing how about 60% of all vehicals in europe are diesel and after driving a few on road trips i think they are great. You cannot even tell that alot of these cars are diesel by listening to them run and the power over the autobahn is great.

 

International's v-6 is the 6.0 with 2 cylinders lopped off. 4.5 liter, 230-250 hp, 350-375 trq. It even has the same bellhousing pattern to use the Powershift 5 spd auto from the Superduty. With the taller hood of the new f150 it should make it a whole lot easier to fit. I think Ford is just living up to its reputation of beating on its suppliers for a better price. It is all over the yahoo financial boards and auto magazines that Ford wants to have a diesel f150 on the market for '06. They would be a fool not to use International's v6 and capitalize on the "Powerstroke" name. I also believe that Ford stands to take a big hit (25%??) on its diesel Superduty if they put a diesel in the light chassis. I know 6 people in my immediate circle of friends that bought a superduty just for the diesel and if it were available in a lighter chassis truck would trade.....To answer the pole, YES, I would buy if it were available.

 

No. Why put up with the noise and "aroma" for a daily driver? The modular engines will last 300k miles easy, and I can fill up anywhere (not that deisel is hard to find, but you can't get it every where), plus it's usually an expensive option. If I really needed that kind of pulling power, I would be driving an F250 or 350.

 

I agree with 3Lstroker, The 4.5L V6 was to introduced in the old truck so it should fit no problem. I don't think this is going to cut into sales as most people interested in a diesel in the F150 would not buy a superduty due to size and over kill muscle. The only reason I have my 99 SC F150 is to pull my 2500lbs tent camper, no cars are rated to pull that much and I want a man trans. Cummins makes a sweet 2.8L four cyl diesel for the marine market that makes 200Hp and 325 Torque in stock trim! That would be a perfect match for the 4.6V8 gas offered now. I will be one of the first in line when a diesel and man. trans come out.

 

Lol, well some people desire that noise. Then after you chip it and all that other stuff and you get that bellowing black smoke, then youll really get some "aroma"