Considering the Tayota Tacoma
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No, and I stand by that post, but just out of the blue, you quoted
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`Originally posted by vman
Those toyotas are built here, maybe thats why they have issues now. `
fordlariat did.
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This makes absolutely no sense to me. I think you misquoted someone in your original post.
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`Originally posted by vman
Those toyotas are built here, maybe thats why they have issues now. `
fordlariat did.
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This makes absolutely no sense to me. I think you misquoted someone in your original post.
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Yea I have considered a used Ranger, and don't see anything wrong with that idea. Other than I'd really love to have a 'new' car. You definately make out better financially by letting someone else take the huge hit and drive it for only 20k miles. BEsides, I graduate in May (from OU) and I was told that the 1st time buyers programs/ financing are only on new vehicles. Haven't verified this yet, but I believe it's true.
But, really I don;t even need 4 wheeld drive. Sure, it'd be nice to have if I needed it. Resale value is alot higher with it. But also, it's one more thing to complicate the truck mechanically (read: one more thing to go wrong). Sure, that is pessimistic, but since I don't really need the functionality of it, that's how I look at it. I really only want the 4x4 Ranger for the ground clearance and stance; neither of these really require all 4 wheels to turn.
Oh, and I can't find a one 2003 F-150 in the state - at least not from Ford.
I do have a new idea, which sounds like a pretty decent one. I could just get a 2 wd. Supercab with lsd, and put a 2" or so lift on it. The cost would be less than 4wd. Of course, supercab = no 4 cyl and I personally like the 4 cyl engines.
I have some thinking to do I guess.
But, really I don;t even need 4 wheeld drive. Sure, it'd be nice to have if I needed it. Resale value is alot higher with it. But also, it's one more thing to complicate the truck mechanically (read: one more thing to go wrong). Sure, that is pessimistic, but since I don't really need the functionality of it, that's how I look at it. I really only want the 4x4 Ranger for the ground clearance and stance; neither of these really require all 4 wheels to turn.
Oh, and I can't find a one 2003 F-150 in the state - at least not from Ford.
I do have a new idea, which sounds like a pretty decent one. I could just get a 2 wd. Supercab with lsd, and put a 2" or so lift on it. The cost would be less than 4wd. Of course, supercab = no 4 cyl and I personally like the 4 cyl engines.
I have some thinking to do I guess.
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When I was first looking to get a pickup I lookied at toyota, nissan, Ford, ect. but it soon became clear that the only real pickup in my price range with all the options I wanted was the Ranger. So about two summers ago I bought a 99 Ford Ranger 4x4 v6 5spd with only 27,000 miles for 10k. Sure it only has the 3.0 liter but for the money I saved by not buying a similarly equiped Toyota I could have bought two of my trucks. Defenetly the best decision I've ever made, and so far I've had no problems what so ever at 45,000 miles and I wheel this rig like a mad man.
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I feel I must tackle the Japenese/American car debate when it comes to jobs. You could not tell anyone in San Antonio, TX where I live that buying a Japanese truck hurts the American economy by shipping jobs overseas. Between 2,000-5,000 jobs will be coming here as a result of the new truck plant set to open in 2006. Already San Antonians are employed by building the factory site itself. Toyota has made a promise to employ local workers first and use local supply companies when possible. The I-Force V-8 used in Tundra is built in AL (or is it MS?). Again, more Americans employed. My Tacoma is American built as well and I have had 8 years of trouble-free reliable service (proof that Americans can build great cars even in modern times). In fact, Consumer Reports named it one of the most reliable cars/trucks on the road. These trucks are built with better made parts and each employee is encouraged to stop the assembly line if a problem is noticed. Stop problems at the factory before the customer gets them. The result is a better made truck built by your neighbors. As for whether to buy the Tacoma or Ranger, buy the Tacoma. You wont' regret it.
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Taco Owner here...
Just a sec... Need to put my fire retardant suit on... Here's the basis for 'my' opinion....
I LOVE Fords but own a '98 Taco SR5.. It's 4x2, extended cab & last tank of gas gave me 27.8 mpg (Hand calculated since there's no trip cpu).. I've had a Ranger as a rental for 2 weeks & it was a great truck. Not long enough to really form a solid opinion though. The big reason for me "trying" a Toyota is because my last 2 vehicles were major POS's. One was a 88 Dakota (9 times in shop the first year, 2 trannies within 2K miles, etc.) The last "trip to the shop" lasted 7 months (I had a loaner for 6 months) & the other was a 95 Aerostar (Thank God for Extended Warranties... Needed it monthly until I got rid of it with only 100K miles)
First time I drove my Taco was when I drove off the lot.. Been in the shop once in 71K miles for a new exhaust manifold heat shield (Warranty).. It's been on tons of hunting & fishing trips and has never let me down.. That engine still uses a timing chain instead of a belt, so no 65K mile replacements either.. Just regular maintenance..
Just my experience that for small trucks, Tacos are my first choice.. Anything larger and I'd get another Ford... Hopefully the next one will be less of a headache.. I have faith in Ford - That's why I'm still on this board..
Good Luck,
Russ
I LOVE Fords but own a '98 Taco SR5.. It's 4x2, extended cab & last tank of gas gave me 27.8 mpg (Hand calculated since there's no trip cpu).. I've had a Ranger as a rental for 2 weeks & it was a great truck. Not long enough to really form a solid opinion though. The big reason for me "trying" a Toyota is because my last 2 vehicles were major POS's. One was a 88 Dakota (9 times in shop the first year, 2 trannies within 2K miles, etc.) The last "trip to the shop" lasted 7 months (I had a loaner for 6 months) & the other was a 95 Aerostar (Thank God for Extended Warranties... Needed it monthly until I got rid of it with only 100K miles)
First time I drove my Taco was when I drove off the lot.. Been in the shop once in 71K miles for a new exhaust manifold heat shield (Warranty).. It's been on tons of hunting & fishing trips and has never let me down.. That engine still uses a timing chain instead of a belt, so no 65K mile replacements either.. Just regular maintenance..
Just my experience that for small trucks, Tacos are my first choice.. Anything larger and I'd get another Ford... Hopefully the next one will be less of a headache.. I have faith in Ford - That's why I'm still on this board..
Good Luck,
Russ
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Originally Posted by sglaine
If you are an American you should drive American you were not born some whares else. The problem in this country is there is no loyaty any more.
That's what I love about this country... Freedom of choice!!! The Soviet Union used to sell only the cars they made. They were poorly crafted, overpriced and just plain junk.. Motorists had to buy them as they had no other choice. Quality was never improved since they had a captive market.. Competition is healthy in the industry..
Just my 2 cents... Didn't mean to go off topic either