I thought this was a forum to help people with questions about Fords. I'll have to agree with SBV45 and mrc59 and say we don't need the verbal abuses. For what it's worth....Thanks for what you do Tim!!
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I have been on this site for not quite 2 months now. Tim has corrected me once or twice on my conduct here, and now that I look back on it rightfully so. Tim does a great job as moderator of this forum. He tries very hard to assist in keeping the peace here as well as contributes to the rich trade of information that occurs here everyday. He is not paid, he does it of goodwill toward his colleagues on this site, of which includes us all. Your statement was rude, obnoxious, and uncalled for, and will leave a bad taste in everyones mouth here. It is your duty as a member of this site to at least make an attempt to keep the atmosphere here friendly and flameless. If you keep up that attitude, Im sure youll be removed from the site, and rightfully so. Just try to be positive, and help contribute some FRIENDLY information, and im sure youll get an answer, or at least suggestion to your question, and most likely alot more.
Just rolled my 04 past the 700 mile mark. Still in break-in, but so far I've been averaging 16.7 MPGs (Range is 16.2 - 19.8). I've been checking the oil every 200 miles, and so far it has been full, clean, and free of any diesel smell. This is a march 04 truck with all march 04 components. By the way, I'm too poor to have all that fancy MPG computer stuff, so I do it the old fashioned waw with a notebook and calculator. I do it every fill up. Usually I'm doing 100 mile runs. We're T-18 days to baby's first towing trip to Wickenburg, so when I get out there hopefully I'll get y'all some more fuel data and see if I can find any horror stories. I sure hope that these problems are isolated.
thanks for nothing, tim, how much does ford pay you for your better ideas?
Why are you flaming Tim for trying to help you out? He doesn't work for Ford and this is a message board, not Ford customer service. There is no guarantee that anyone can help you with your problems, although from my experience everyone will try their best. I can tell you one thing, if you alienate yourself from everyone by being unfriendly you won't get help.
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Agreeably the vast majority of the 6.0s are running fine with nothing out of the ordinary wrong. However every product run, runs the odds of having problems, and any purchase is a chance at problems,and unfortunately most folks figure at 1-10,000 miles should weed out reducing the possibility of failures, not so.
I am the proud owner of an 8000 lb FMC boat anchor, otherwise known as a 03 F350 CC xlt Sport DRW 6.0 autotranny full bed, build date January 03, purchased July 03. Ran great for 13,900 +/- miles, February 27,04 rough idle, mild but rough, dealer drain HFCM, flashed the PCM, changed the oil, running good again, 4 days later rough again, fuel fumes in cab. Back to dealer, fuel in oil, replace #7 injector, back on the road. Monday morning 3 days later no start, rough start, smoke, no power, tow into shop, replace ERG, ICP, reflash, now it gets good, 2 days in shop 3 days on the road, tow back again replace #1-3-5-7 injectors, again back on the road for 3 days, back again to the dealer, this goes on all of March and April, 46 days to date since February 27,04. My dealer has been great through all of this, FMC on the other hand well we best let that go, long story short, ordered a new 04 3 weeks ago under the buy back program. I firmly believe that the 6.0 is a sound power plant, the power that my 03 had was incredibale, and the only reason I am going to give it a second chance, rather then go with a V10, or other manufacturer.
But believe me there are some real physco 6.0's out there, and the same can be said of some of the posts, so enter ownership in the 6.0 realm, enjoy the first class ride, and buy the Premium Extended Warranty 5yr/100,000, $35-4000.00.
Fact: the injectors installed in ALL 6.0's built till May 04 run a high rate possibility of failure, FMC issued a "Silent Recall" to all dealers in April 04 to pull the problem injectors (Blue Oval News)
Fact: FMC will not as a rule authorise the replace of more then 2 injectors at a time, or unless they have failed, and all parts must be returned to FMC.
Fact: the injectors installed in ALL 6.0's built till May 04 run a high rate possibility of failure, FMC issued a "Silent Recall" to all dealers in April 04 to pull the problem injectors (Blue Oval News)
First, Blue Oval News is not a Ford sponsored newsletter. It is owned by someone independent who appears to be on a crusade. Blue Oval News is kind of like the National Enquirer of the auto industry mainly Ford.
No I am not affiliated with Ford or a dealership.
Second, other than Blue Oval's claim, show me the recall. It does not exist. I have thrown out that challenge before on this forum and have yet to see any recall. TSB's, yes. No recall.
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Were you doing the fuel/water separator drain once a month as advised in the owner manual? Were you using any fuel additives like PS or Stanadyne?
This is beginning to sound like the 2004 F-150 Forum and the vibration issue. "My truck has a vibration, so ALL F-150s must vibrate, because 20 people here say their's vibrate, too. And I really don't want a solution to my problem, even when someone offers it- I just want to complain, moan and whine about my problem. That's the only way people pay any attention to me. Solve my problem, and no one at FTE listens to me anymore."
If someone has a legitimate problem, then let's do what we can to help solve it. But the constant whining and complaining, stating the same problem over and over and over again, accomplishes nothing. Except to feed one's own ego. My shop's experience: the early 6.0s had problems, no doubt. Ford's handling of the early 6.0 issues was shameful, too. They should have stepped up to the pump a lot sooner than they did. Bottom line: our shop has seen NO problems assoicated with any 6.0 built in the past 6-9 months.
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thanks for nothing, tim, how much does ford pay you for your better ideas?
Well I guess I will not find a Christmas card in the mailbox from him.
See I leave for a couple of days and my popularity dwindles.
This site is about what all have written, sharing and learning from each other.
We will continue to achieve that! Thanks to all of you.
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my self I love my truck getting around 19-20 mpg and only one problem but since they replaced the turbo there is nothing to coplain about. I was expecting problems when I bought the truck and luckly that is the only one I have had. My dealership treated me great on that on. So far I got 17000 on the truck and am looking foward to the next 17000.
My F-250 gets 14mpg in the city, 19mpg on the highway and 12mpg pulling a 10K# trailer. My truck has 7,500 miles on it. 2 easy oil changes so far. I like the filter on top, clean and easy to change. Ford had to change an EGR sensor at 180 miles, but since then, very smooth, no hicups.
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I agree with the by the road thing, never seen one myself. But is a major disappointment to drop all that money and get one of these trucks that has so many issues, they have most of mine figured out and repaired except the moan/ drone and the fuel mpgs. but at 8.2 mpg pulling the trailer it sure hurts the old bilfold and ford doesnt have a clue how to fix. sorry about the crazy comment.
Were you doing the fuel/water separator drain once a month as advised in the owner manual? Were you using any fuel additives like PS or Stanadyne?
I didn't read (yet) that I am supposed to drain the fuel/water seperator once a month. I am glad to hear the information you guys post. Secondly, is it good or pad to add fuel additives like PS (?) or Stanadyne?
Well I guess I will not find a Christmas card in the mailbox from him.
See I leave for a couple of days and my popularity dwindles.
This site is about what all have written, sharing and learning from each other.
We will continue to achieve that! Thanks to all of you.
I thought his flaming was wrong. To me, your post sounded like you wanted both negative AND positive feed back on the 6.0's for statistical purposes. If FMC never wants to hear or take action on the data you collected, that's certainly their perogative. None the less, you're trying and people should take note of that. If he wants to whine about his truck, do it to FMC.
I thought his flaming was wrong. To me, your post sounded like you wanted both negative AND positive feed back on the 6.0's for statistical purposes. If FMC never wants to hear or take action on the data you collected, that's certainly their perogative. None the less, you're trying and people should take note of that. If he wants to whine about his truck, do it to FMC.
Yes you are correct, I do want positve and negative comments.
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