Rack and Pinion Steering?
#17
Originally posted by Fordication
Ok then it is more or less required that you have power steering to drive one of these trucks even with rack and pinion? Ed
Ok then it is more or less required that you have power steering to drive one of these trucks even with rack and pinion? Ed
Good luck Ed ke6bnl
#19
Friday, I sent out several emails to various "STEERING & Parts" shops. I asked them the same questions. When I get a reply I will forward to this post.
Questions asked:
1. Is there another application for powersteering on a 48-56 instead of IFS or Toyota?
2. Is there a bracket, either bolt-on or weld, that will allow a rack & pinion to be used on 48-56 f1/f100?
Will let y'all know what I find out.
Andrew
Questions asked:
1. Is there another application for powersteering on a 48-56 instead of IFS or Toyota?
2. Is there a bracket, either bolt-on or weld, that will allow a rack & pinion to be used on 48-56 f1/f100?
Will let y'all know what I find out.
Andrew
#20
After posting last reply I remembered another site that had the following answer to the same question.
Here's one response;
"the Corvair steering box, especially the aluminum version, since these boxes were never designed for a vehicle as heavy in the front end as your truck. A '67-'68 Mustang box would be a lot better choice. I've got a good one you can have for the shipping cost. Actually, the original box in this truck is a good one if it's not worn out. They used to be popular on '32-'34 Ford hot rods. Rebuilding the original box might be worth considering. The old "bug eye" Dodge A-100 vans back in the 60's also had a really good steering box for a push-pull drag link application. Seems like I remember Rod & Custom back in the 60's did a tech article on putting one of these boxes in a late 40's-early 50's F1."
Hope this helps
Andrew
Here's one response;
"the Corvair steering box, especially the aluminum version, since these boxes were never designed for a vehicle as heavy in the front end as your truck. A '67-'68 Mustang box would be a lot better choice. I've got a good one you can have for the shipping cost. Actually, the original box in this truck is a good one if it's not worn out. They used to be popular on '32-'34 Ford hot rods. Rebuilding the original box might be worth considering. The old "bug eye" Dodge A-100 vans back in the 60's also had a really good steering box for a push-pull drag link application. Seems like I remember Rod & Custom back in the 60's did a tech article on putting one of these boxes in a late 40's-early 50's F1."
Hope this helps
Andrew
#21
Honestly I am still confused. Is the manual R&P suffiecient enough to do everyday driving? I am not weak but I do like conveneince. Although I am sure that I have driven a standard no PS car, I do not remember how bad it was. I do know that what my truck has now is impossible. BTW I am thinking of you guys while I drink my next Polar Ice. GO Figure. Ed
#23
Got a friend with a 31 roadster, uses a tube axle with a manual rack. R&P is mounted directly to the axle. he used a slide joint to connect the column to the steering spline (Borgenson makes them and Flaming river, I saw em in one of the comic books) this slides in and out with the suspension travel. You are wondering,Is it safe? well the '31 goes 9.95 1/4 mile and 2 foot wheelstands, Yahoo! Car has been set up like this for 4 years and no problems, It is street driven too (sometimes)
Saw the same set up at a local cruise mounted to a tube axle on a gasser style 39 Chev.
I don't see why this would not work on an Effie, better find a good welder though if you plan to use the I beam.
Dave
Saw the same set up at a local cruise mounted to a tube axle on a gasser style 39 Chev.
I don't see why this would not work on an Effie, better find a good welder though if you plan to use the I beam.
Dave
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Dave,
Although it's been done, installing a rack and pinion on a straight axle is NEVER a good idea. A rack and pinion was designed to mount on the frame or crossmember which does not move. By mounting to the axle which moves up and down, you incur bump steer (movement of the steering wheel back and forth when you go over bumps). If you are just driving down a drag strip you don't care about bump steer, but it can get very annoying driving down a bumpy street.
Although it's been done, installing a rack and pinion on a straight axle is NEVER a good idea. A rack and pinion was designed to mount on the frame or crossmember which does not move. By mounting to the axle which moves up and down, you incur bump steer (movement of the steering wheel back and forth when you go over bumps). If you are just driving down a drag strip you don't care about bump steer, but it can get very annoying driving down a bumpy street.
#25
Ed
Ok.
Just give in and use a power rack.
It would be nice if you could drive a manual steering stock F100 around town for a while then drive one with the steering wheel and tire combination that you are going to use, that may give you reason enough to use the power rack.
Also as each year passes things get a little tougher to do (like turning a manual steering truck with small steering wheel and sticky radial tires on a 90 deg plus day)
I agree with Vern on the rack/beam axle even if you added a steering stabalizer bar it's not the wise thing to do.
Chuck
Ok.
Just give in and use a power rack.
It would be nice if you could drive a manual steering stock F100 around town for a while then drive one with the steering wheel and tire combination that you are going to use, that may give you reason enough to use the power rack.
Also as each year passes things get a little tougher to do (like turning a manual steering truck with small steering wheel and sticky radial tires on a 90 deg plus day)
I agree with Vern on the rack/beam axle even if you added a steering stabalizer bar it's not the wise thing to do.
Chuck
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