Why would a Cummins be any less durable in New England? Pickups around here go through alot too, and the Cummins are harder to kill. Ranch work is hard on vehicles. So is pulling large loads all of the time. The weather can get pretty cold around here too, and the Dodge's grid heater is much more likely to be there when one needs it. People are going away from Ford around here, so that might say something. A few Chevy guys got Dmaxes instead of Dodges when they came out, but kept the Dodge for a work pickup. I have seen some Ford pickups last a long time, as well as Chevy and Dodge. I'm not saying that a PSD is junk. A Cummins will simply outlast a PSD most of the time. It is mostly about who owns it and how they drive it and maintain it. Even a Chevy 6.5 will be a pretty good motor if it is taken care of and not used to pull heavy loads.

 

My grandfather's old 6.2L diesel does pretty good for what it is. Only thing with that truck is that it's on its 3rd transmission.

 

My friend's dad and grandfather own 3 6.2 diesels. They are all broke down right now, but the grandfather drives em pretty hard and never lets them warm up before he drives em in the winter. They do make good mileage. I have drove a couple of them and they have less power than my 302. My friend told me that they will pull ok if running high rpms (doesn't make much sense for a diesel). They bought a 99 Ford Superduty a year ago and they are happy with everything but the mileage. These have the good old bulletproof SM420 4-speed, so there have been no tranny problems. One of them even has an overdrive unit on it, but it is starting to go south. 6.2s are ok motors if not used for heavy towing and if maintained very well, much like the 6.5. I would prefer to get an 86 or 87 Chevy with a TBI 350, myself.

 

When it was new it was nothing to have 10,000 lbs. on that truck. It was not fast, but it did the job. Granddaddy refused to get a gas one in those years. His newer truck is gas though becuase he don't drive it very much.

 

Whats the highest mileage 7.3 youve seen that had not been repaired? Id like to compare notes.

 

Well for original everything engine/trans/axles, a '92 F-350 CC Dually N/A 7.3L with 320,000 miles, in excellent shape.

For original engine only, 605,000 miles on a '94 F-250 XL Power Stroke owned by a local road construction co, had a new tranny at 200k, new one had internal improvements done other than that, just routine maintenance. 3 shifts a day and the same truck being used for all of them is a lot of miles. The rest of the company's trucks are newer and they are all Power Strokes with the exception of a few 5.4L F-250's.

 

I seen a 92 dodge with 580k on the original engine tranny and axles. It was on its second clutch. Older fellow drove over 1000 miles a weekend.

 

I know of a person who has a 90 7.3 that he bought new. He put a turbo on it as soon as he bought it. Towed a 35 foot 5th wheel camper to Washington every summer and to Florida every winter from our state of Oklahoma. Over 500,000 miles and only routine maintenence except glow plugs and injectors.

 

Cummins is one of the major contributors to Handgun Control Incorporated.

For that reason they will never get a dime from me.

http://www.rkba.org/nra/antis.6oct95.old

 

Stock for stock, the PSD eats the Cummins' lunch. With the same amount of mods, the same thing. PSD is leading in sales for a reason, because the Ford is a better truck with a better engine.

 

Posted by FordLariat;

Stock for stock, the PSD eats the Cummins' lunch. With the same amount of mods, the same thing. PSD is leading in sales for a reason, because the Ford is a better truck with a better engine.
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At least most Cummins detractors try to bait and switch, or use some sort of smoke screen - they compare Cummins with Cat and John Deere- neither of which are available in a pickup truck- or they say higher RPM power is more important than low end torque(or vice versa) depending on whether Ford's got the lowest torque- but very few would try to make a direct comparision and say the PSD is the better engine- they know better.

2 undisputable facts that all must acknowledge- like them or not.

1.) The SAME Cummins engine in the Dodge Ram is available in the F-650 / F-750 as an upgrade over the 6.0LPSD for an additional cost.

2.) Dodge has probably had to service a handful of faulty Cummins engines sold in the Ram pickup trucks over the last year, while Ford has had(and probably will continue to have) to perform many thousands of services for problems associated with the 6.0L PSD.

Any truck enthusiast who does not know this has been living in a cave.

 

But still a Dodge is a Dodge. They will "Dodge" any warranty claim as they did with the one we had.

 

We don't have that problem with dealers here. And with the Cummins, you don't HAVE any warranty claims...so it doesn't matter.

 

Sinister73, I agree with you 100% I love my Ford, but I would take a Cummins over a PSD anyday. Here is the reason: The Cummins is an inline Six. Plain and simple, an inline design will outlive a V-design every time. Especially when you consider the high compression ratio of a deisel. If you want proof, just look at any 18 wheeler on the highway. I guarantee that 95% of them run inline sixes. That should tell you something. Just my $.02

 

The cummins is far more reliable due to it's I-6 motor. The life of the cummins will far top the PSD and the power is smoother at the same time. I was wondering if the 6.0 is so great, why does Ford offer the cummins in the F-650 and 750?