hard warm start
#1
hard warm start
Lately it's been getting more difficult for me to start my truck after I've been driving it for awhile. If I don't let it set for at least 20 minutes or so between start ups, it won't turn over. All I get is a flooded engine.
I've have an electric choke on the carburetor. Could it be faulty?
The carburetor was bought in the fall of 2002.
Thanks.
I've have an electric choke on the carburetor. Could it be faulty?
The carburetor was bought in the fall of 2002.
Thanks.
#2
Choke shouldn't be a problem if it has the plate opened when it is hot. How is the start up when cold? Knowing what carb you have might help, many Ford models had a power valve in them when bad will cause a flood condition. When you shut down the hot engine , remove the air filter and look into the carb. Is there a light smoke vapor coming up? Sure sign it is draining fuel when stopped.Let us know. Good luck.
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Saying "it won't turn over" would mean that the starter is having trouble cranking the engine.
Yet, I've seen many people say "it won't turn over" when they mean "I crank it and crank it and it won't start." Not the same thing at all.
It's important to know which problem you have before anybody can offer any real help.
Yet, I've seen many people say "it won't turn over" when they mean "I crank it and crank it and it won't start." Not the same thing at all.
It's important to know which problem you have before anybody can offer any real help.
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#8
Is it like the timing is too far advanced or starter is "bucking" like turning over really slow it sounds like its the starter wire make sure they are routed away from exhaust manifolds or get a bigger wire or could be a worn out starter. Mine does the same thing just havent had the time to re route wire yet cause mine runs right by the manifold on the inside of the frame.
#9
Thanks for all the replies.
So far it seems to be a little better. I have noticed the more I drive the vehicle, the easier it is for it to crank over. Before I would crank it, crank it, crank it, and nothing (starter turns). No fire. Just a very strong gas smell.
To clarify a few things before any more suggestions are made, everything is all original. Yes, twenty-five year old parts are very prevelant on this vehicle - including the air pump. The only thing that was touched on the engine were the usual stuff after I bought it and had the local garage perform a tune-up. It included new wires, plugs, rotor, cap, PVC, belts, air filter, etc.
For whatever reasons it doesn't seem to be flooding anymore. I know this sounds strange but it seems to be true. I have used octane boosters and injection cleaners the last two tank fulls and the engine seems to be running very well. When it gets warmer, I plan on replacing the fuel filters and taking a look at the carburetor. I know it's only a year or so old but that doesn't mean much considering it sat for almost 7 months before I bought it.
Like I said, when it gets warmer I plan on replacing the battery cables and filters. Drive it awhile and see how that effect the situation. Maybe I'll replace the starter solenoid as well.
Thanks.
So far it seems to be a little better. I have noticed the more I drive the vehicle, the easier it is for it to crank over. Before I would crank it, crank it, crank it, and nothing (starter turns). No fire. Just a very strong gas smell.
To clarify a few things before any more suggestions are made, everything is all original. Yes, twenty-five year old parts are very prevelant on this vehicle - including the air pump. The only thing that was touched on the engine were the usual stuff after I bought it and had the local garage perform a tune-up. It included new wires, plugs, rotor, cap, PVC, belts, air filter, etc.
For whatever reasons it doesn't seem to be flooding anymore. I know this sounds strange but it seems to be true. I have used octane boosters and injection cleaners the last two tank fulls and the engine seems to be running very well. When it gets warmer, I plan on replacing the fuel filters and taking a look at the carburetor. I know it's only a year or so old but that doesn't mean much considering it sat for almost 7 months before I bought it.
Like I said, when it gets warmer I plan on replacing the battery cables and filters. Drive it awhile and see how that effect the situation. Maybe I'll replace the starter solenoid as well.
Thanks.
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I had the same problem with my 400 and got tired of messing with it so changed the stock 2 barrel manifold and carb to a 4 barrel and still had the same problem. Then I figured it was boiling gas so then I bought a Phenolic spacer and now she starts immediately every time, hot or cold.
I don't know if they make a spacer like that for the 2 barrel but longer bolts and more dissipators might do the trick.
I don't know if they make a spacer like that for the 2 barrel but longer bolts and more dissipators might do the trick.
#13
Yep. The phenolic spacer is a big help. I had the same problem on a '62 Ford. Boiling gas. The phenolic spacer cured it.
Another thing that causes it - the phenolic floats get porous with age, become logged, and don't float normally, causing the bowl to flood and run down the carb throat.
Another thing that causes it - the phenolic floats get porous with age, become logged, and don't float normally, causing the bowl to flood and run down the carb throat.
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