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both my sons have 95 dodges with cummins. 145,000, ready for a rebuild. brakes going down all the time, clutches being replaced before they should, and front ends that are so loose it scares me. they both could buy a new ford for what they spent on repairs other than there "cummins'.
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Quote "with a heavy load on, we are able to top hills on the interstate at 100 MPH"

I question the intelligence of anyone who pulls heavy load at 100+ MPH. That's just me, though.

If it wasn't for the guys with PSDs that think they really have something, we wouldn't have to.
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The only thing that makes zero sense is the fact that you know so much about two trucks of which you don't own or probably have ever driven.Second of all you can have your torque down low because that's where the cummins needs it to keep moving.Instead of running off at the mouth go out and drive both trucks and if you tell me that the cummins has the balls to accelerate on the on ramp then it will be a proven fact that you are a liar. By the way I don't think that new motor is even released yet.In two indipendent test the Cummins was third in all testing but everyone turns a blind eye to that. Go get your self that cummins and I'll see you out on the road just look for me in the passing lane way up in front of you.
"Independent tests"...that's all I ever hear from you. Who cares what some magazine says to get readers' attention??

Unlike you, we actually USE our trucks. We've had GMs with the big gas motors and cams, we've had the Ford diesels and now we use Cummins. And we work our trucks hard...actually we abuse them (but we don't admit it because we don't want the warranty voided ). And since I have experience with all three, and since I live by the plant where the PSD is built (therefore I hear the inside scoop on stuff), I am more qualified to give an opinion of the trucks than some magazine that doesn't do anything but race three trucks and then choose a winner.

And yes, our Cummins carries 4,000+ lbs. in the utility bed 24/7, and it will accelerate like mad up KY hillsides. And sometimes we have to tow forklifts that go around 15,000 lbs. in addition to that. And 60,000 miles in 15 months on top of that. And this Cummins never complains and has never given us a single problem whatsoever. If you got the nerve to ride, come on down and I'll prove it. Otherwise, please hush. Cause obviously YOU have never owned all three and therefore YOU can't comment.

P.S. The Cummins also achieves better gas mileage than the PSD, especially when loaded. I don't know where you guys are getting that the Cummins is hard on fuel. With 25,000 lb. total combined weight (truck and trailer) we're seeing 13. 16 with just the load on the bed and no trailer. I don't think our PSD ever got 16 mpg the entire time we owned it.
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I got a 95 dodge ram cummins. Has 359,000 miles. Changed the water pump and alternator and other regular wear and tear items like brakes. Oh yea the tranny is stock and hasn't been replaced either. It has never failed me yet. I use it to tow a 42 foot ex navy rescue boat with a 6-71 detroit diesel. This boat weighs a ton. I know it is overloaded and have tried our excursion to tow it, but the cummins is the only thing that will pull it. Pulls very slowly, but at least it pulls. Our excursion with the powerstroke won't even budge.
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That's just plain b/s. My 460 can do that.

Your Cummins' mileage will drop off as you go above 65mph.

But as for me, I know the truth, the Cat 3126 will eat the Cummins for lunch.
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That's just plain b/s. My 460 can do that.

Your Cummins' mileage will drop off as you go above 65mph.

But as for me, I know the truth, the Cat 3126 will eat the Cummins for lunch.
I'm sure that a Cat 3126 can eat a 5.9 Cummins fro lunch because it is 7.2 liters compared to 5.9. If Cummins mileage drops past 65 mph, then what happens to the mileage of a 6.0 when the driver runs it up to 4000 rpm in an attempt to outpull a Dodge. It seems as if you Ford guys want a gas engine that has low end torque and diesel with high rpm power. Whats up with that? Anyway, I do not care which pickup pulls best. I want a reliable vehicle that I can depend on. A Cummins will pull anything that anyone has any business towing with ease, so why would more power really be needed. I think that Ford pickups are good, but Dodges are just as good and they also come with the best diesel motor. Just wait until the 325hp 600tque version is available. It will probably be able to pull hills at least as good as a 6.0 ps and will not be running at 4000 rpm.
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but a cummins C8.3 will tear the kitty cat a new one... if you want to compare them, at least compare them against something in the same class.


I have 200,000 miles on my Cummins (150,000 of those were pushing over 400hp) and I haven't replaced anything motorwise
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Very funny, you're in 3406 territory now buddy.......that Cummins won't stand a chance there.
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we were talking about the 3126.... anyway, I though this thread was about pickup motors?
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I think the ford is better because it has glow plugs, and recalls, and needs a fuel filter every oil change, and cost more to maintain

interesting fact, Ford was looking at using a V8 Cummins before they came out with the 6.0... should have thought of that back in '88 when Cummins asked them If they wanted their B5.9 for their pickups...

I beg to differ, I have mine turned up beyond 500hp and sometimes I wish I had more
Please show us a credible source. Ford may have considered a smaller diesel for the F150, made by International. They didn't court Cummings.
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^all posted by ford owners on this site

shall I go on, there's plenty more?
Go to the TDR site and you'll find many problems posted by Cummins owners.
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The thing I dont understand is that with the new F-150 all you ford guys thick its the best truck ever built because its torque comes in lower than the ram 1500. But based on what you sad above the the ram 1500 is better than the new F-150. So which is it ?
Its not apples to apples. The red lines are different, especially with Cummins have a very low redline.
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If you go to TDR all you hear about is the KDP pin, which is a preventiative measure, not a persistant problem... not that any of you would actually go look or believe me
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I guess all of those problems, which took a whopping 10 minutes of time, are imaginary.

I used to admin the TDR server. There were and still are plenty of problems with the trucks. Don't kid yourself, they all have problems, not just one brand.
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