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Old 01-09-2004, 09:46 PM
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Starting a 6.0L diesel properly

This is my ass and this is my elbow, but other than that I am not sure about much else.
I know (i hope) that i should turn the key so that all the idiot lights go on (those named after me?) and then try to start the truck. That works just fine even at -40C which i think is also -40F.
How long do I idle before the glow plugs are ready to move. i have been waiting until the RPM's go from about 600 to around 1200. But if the truck is warm it seems to take forever.
Help me out please, as here in Winnipeg diesel is often more $ than gas.

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Re: Starting a 6.0L diesel properly

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This is my ass and this is my elbow, but other than that I am not sure about much else.
I know (i hope) that i should turn the key so that all the idiot lights go on (those named after me?) and then try to start the truck. That works just fine even at -40C which i think is also -40F.
How long do I idle before the glow plugs are ready to move. i have been waiting until the RPM's go from about 600 to around 1200. But if the truck is warm it seems to take forever.
Help me out please, as here in Winnipeg diesel is often more $ than gas.

Thanks

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-40F?? I can't imagine living in (or even visiting) a place like that, except in the spring, summer and early fall. Must have many many other redeeming features.

Down here, in so. Cal, we start complaining and breaking out the heavy jackets if it gets much below 50F. Haven't seen snow in over 20 years.

And, just to stay on topic, my new '04 6.0L PSD F250 loves it here. No problems with glow plugs, warm up time, engine heaters, supply of cold weather fuel, or so far, anything else. Gotta love my new truck.

I would guess that when the little curly-que light goes off, the glow plugs are hot to trot.
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Take the advice of "odds on 21"... as well as your dealer (talk to them).
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-40 C is not the same as -40F, but still awfully cold, more around 0 degrees, which it has been here in Illinois a few days ago, and I think my plugs will run for 2 mins, if I have the lights on I can tell when they kick off because the lights all of a sudden get brighter.
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-40 C is not the same as -40F, but still awfully cold, more around 0 degrees, which it has been here in Illinois a few days ago, and I think my plugs will run for 2 mins, if I have the lights on I can tell when they kick off because the lights all of a sudden get brighter.
The two temperature scales cross at -40. It is the one temperature where they are the same.
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glow plugs

My dealer said i should wait for the symbol in the bottom right corner to go off before i move. A check of the book shows that it is the symbol for the airbag.
As my dealer did not know about the latest flash, or where he could get that info i figured i would go to the "big boys".

As for the -40 those were summer temps!!! You should see it when it gets cold up here

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NickyDiesel,
It gets down in the single digits here + and -. In those temps, I ensure I plug in my block heater for at least 2-3 hours prior. I use a timer, and don't actually get up to do so . Having done that, once the glowplug light goes out, I give it about 20-30 seconds more, then fire it up. It starts without romps. Then, just a couple of minutes to come up to temp - I look to see if either the tranny or water temp gauges start moving - tranny normally does first when it is cold.

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The glow plug or wait to start symbol is on the left side of instrument cluster. Read your owners manual it will tell you a the locations and the stupid symbols. They should have stayed with wait to start. The dealers know nothing except the price on the window. The first truck I drove I got in and turned the key on and asked the salesman where is wait to start. He said the new ones dont have glow plugs you just crank it up like any gas engine. I thought he was nuts but it did start right up(warm weather). I read my owners manual and found out the truth.If you want the best info ask the people on this forum. They have been very helpful.
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GOT DOWN TO ZERO DEGREES LAST NIGHT HERE IN BUFFALO NY PLUG THE TRUCK IN WHEN I REMEMBER TO (OOPS) WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING IS CYCLING THE GLOW PLUGS 2-3 TIMES NO PROB STARTING!!!!
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-40 C is not the same as -40F, but still awfully cold, more around 0 degrees, which it has been here in Illinois a few days ago, and I think my plugs will run for 2 mins, if I have the lights on I can tell when they kick off because the lights all of a sudden get brighter.
-40 deg C and -40 deg F are the same temperature. This is the one point on the Celsius and Fahrenheit scale where the two intersect. They are both equal to 233.15 K by the way.

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Who gets up at 3 am to go plug there truck in so it will be warm when they leave at 6am?

I plug in when i get home and unplug when I go to work.
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Re: Starting a 6.0L diesel properly

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Originally posted by nickydiesel
This is my ass and this is my elbow, but other than that I am not sure about much else.
I know (i hope) that i should turn the key so that all the idiot lights go on (those named after me?) and then try to start the truck. That works just fine even at -40C which i think is also -40F.
How long do I idle before the glow plugs are ready to move. i have been waiting until the RPM's go from about 600 to around 1200. But if the truck is warm it seems to take forever.
Help me out please, as here in Winnipeg diesel is often more $ than gas.

Thanks

Nic
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Take the advice of "odds on 21"... as well as your dealer (talk to them).
Had my new truck (800 miles) into the dealer today to check out a noise I didn't recognize. (Learned it is not a problem. I will be researching that.) But in the process, I met the agency's diesel mechanic and talked with him for a while. Talked about the noise, about various flashes, how he feels about the attempts to unionize the mechanics, how he likes working with and on Fords. Basically started to form a personal relationship with the guy who, if necessary, will be working on my truck. (Not that he isn't a very nice and likeable young man, he is, but I hope that I never become close friends with him out of the need for frequent visits. I don't believe I will.) Our conversation was open and candid. At the end, I felt he was giving me honest answers and comments, and was not in any way trying to schmooze me. As a result, I am happier than before about buying this truck.

One thing I did learn is that where I live, I am likely to experience fewer, if any, of the problems I read about on these 6.0 PSD forums. Sea level, temperature most always beteen 40 and 90 degrees F. Also, the boost on my turbo is a couple pounds higher than ususal stock, so I am (according to him) going to get a little better performance and mileage (if I keep it under 75MPH) than normal. The October flash on my truck is A-OK for where I live.

HOT DAMN!! Gotta love this truck!

I ordered a camper shell and Bedrug for itl. Will be here in about two weeks.

I also advised my manager today that I wil be retiring on April.

Ask me today, I will tell you that life if pretty damned good.
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