Whatever that means.

I hear it daily, and am curious to know what you think it means, especially if you use the phrase.

Take it back to what?

Give it back to who?

Get it back where?

 

:dunno:
never heard that one.

 

Hmmm.... Maybe native American Indians?

 

If Republicans control the executive branch, it means "We need to take our country back by putting a Democrat in office!"

If Democrats control the executive branch, it means "We need to take our country back by putting a Republican in office!"

When any other parties, factions, or lowly non-partisan citizens say it, it means "We need to take our country back by, um...Hmm. Can I get back to you on that?"

 

Hi zonkola,

HAHA. Yeah, if you challenge an individual who just mindlessly spouts the phrase, you get a response very similar to that.

Call these things aphorisms or what you want, but I find myself disagreeing more and more with these common everyday sayings.

regards

 

i think its just a comfortable response to the downward spiral on which our country is headed...imo

 

its a reference to the influence that big business has on the nation as a whole (vs the interests of the people).

I dont mean to sound like a left wing socialist, but capitalism only works when monopolies/oligopolies are 1. recognized 2. controlled.
check other socio/political issues in this forum for examples.

 

I didn't know it went any where

I'll have to start looking to see where it went.

I'll try and get back with ya all when I find it, then maybe we can come up with a plan to move itback!

 

Hi Vanhecht,

How long IYO has our country been in this downward spiral? Is it End of the World nosediving?

regards

 

well, just from the way i see society and the growth of the pc movement, and the decline in what i see as somewhat average morals, and the growth of the love of frivilous lawsuits, and reverse discrimination, and sensory desensitization(if thats a word, i am sure you get the idea) from what we watch and listen to on tv, radio, magazines, etc....id say for about 35 yrs though i can only look back on about 20 of that from semi experience the rest is historically speaking...i didnt say we were close to the end but no form of guvment has ever lasted indefinitely...not trying to be a bunker bandit either, just a realist. i still think our country is great and i will do what i can in my own way to preserve it...i wouldnt say end o' the world, but maybe a self induced end of our way of life as we know it, a collapse, i dunno i cannot say for sure
sincerely and without grievance,
van


.....and thats only the half of it

 

Hi hyepword,

Are you totally against big business, say a Microsoft-type big business? Or a Wal-Mart?

Both continue to provide the consumer with low-priced goods that the consumer wants. Neither is a monopoly; Apple is testimony to that and so is Target and K-Mart.

I remember a documentary about Standard Oil's beginnings when the price of kerosene was 25 cents per gallon. After Rockefeller consolidated the business and just before the government declared it was a monopoly, the price per gallon was 7 cents. Average people, I submit, were better for Rockefeller and his so-called monopoly.

regards

 

Hi Vanhecht,

I agree with you about sensory desensitization. It seems people, if allowed, will always fill the amphitheaters with the coarsest entertainment. But it has always been that way. We're not allowing lions to shred humans anymore, but we love to see beautiful women in various stages of undress. I'll say the latter is an improvement overall.

Political correctness, a nuisance, a fly that buzzes around your face IMO. Most times I don't even notice the fly or let it distract me.

A decline in morals I don't see.

Frivilous lawsuits I will agree with you.

But it is nowhere near me saying, "We need to take our country back".

regards

 

i'm not against big business at all. I'm for it so it can compete against europe and asia. I meant to say that the government has to regulate and protect it when issues affect the common man.
Wal-Mart is a perfect example of why. Wal-Mart does more to destroy local economies in small towns than anything else. Many economists consider walmart the 3rd reich of business, inprecedented and incredibly hungry in how it devours its competition.
it has the capital to build a large store in a small town, and kill all other smaller shops and stores in that town. this does many things. first, skill and employment is reduced to entry level jobs. second, the economic cycle (money trail) is no longer healthy but dependent on a foreign entity. profits go out of town while low jobs take their place.
when rockefeller reduced the price, he did so because pressure had been mounting for years about his monopoly. it took decades if i remember right, and even when it did break up, he was the main investor/owner in all 'competitors'.
I'm 100% for big business, but macro/micro economics dictates that without government control a large company will abuse the general public.
responsibility in public office is rare, and the struggle is what keeps the nation on balance. look at the milk, banana, and oil industries, just as a few examples.
phew, that took a while to type out!

 

I tried to take it back, but the nice lady at the returns desk said I could only take it back within 7 days, and only then with a receipt.

 

I believe there is an exchange policy