Coverting electric air compressor to gas
#1
Coverting electric air compressor to gas
I have a old Speedaire compressor driven by a 1/2 hp electric motor and want to convert to a 2hp briggs and straton gas motor. What do I need to control the compressor on/off cycle other the a adjustable relief valve. I'm retired so cheap is good.
any help would be great!
any help would be great!
#2
An adjustable relief is about the only way you can do it with a gas engine with no on-off control. I would use two pressure relief valves tho with slightly different settings.
You could make some sort of throttle down setup when it reached pressure with an air cylinder and some pressure controls but unless you had access to that stuff in your junk box it would get $$$.
You could make some sort of throttle down setup when it reached pressure with an air cylinder and some pressure controls but unless you had access to that stuff in your junk box it would get $$$.
#3
All,
A centrifugal clutch similiar to a go kart clutch would probably be a great place to start. The next idea would be to control the throttle somehow? Your signal to throttle down would have to come from a pressure transducing sensor. this should be adjustable to your specific needs and have some sort of electrical contacts. This should be applicable voltage to whatever your motor is making (i.e. 12VDC?) Use a airconditioning solenoid similiar to those found on most automotive projects to go from idle to wide open throttle (WOT). You may have to rig some sort of lever to get the ratio correct. When the pressure transducer closes due to high pressure the actuating solenoid will retract and bring the motor to idle.
KingFisher
Easier said, than done.
A centrifugal clutch similiar to a go kart clutch would probably be a great place to start. The next idea would be to control the throttle somehow? Your signal to throttle down would have to come from a pressure transducing sensor. this should be adjustable to your specific needs and have some sort of electrical contacts. This should be applicable voltage to whatever your motor is making (i.e. 12VDC?) Use a airconditioning solenoid similiar to those found on most automotive projects to go from idle to wide open throttle (WOT). You may have to rig some sort of lever to get the ratio correct. When the pressure transducer closes due to high pressure the actuating solenoid will retract and bring the motor to idle.
KingFisher
Easier said, than done.
#4
Originally posted by dfisher1
All,
A centrifugal clutch similiar to a go kart clutch would probably be a great place to start...
All,
A centrifugal clutch similiar to a go kart clutch would probably be a great place to start...
Originally posted by dfisher1
...Easier said, than done.
...Easier said, than done.
#5
All,
Most compressors already have a pressure switch. This would be the device to actuate either a throttle actuator or, possibly, an electric clutch (not go-kart type). My rider mower has a 12VDC system. Most small mowers have a coil which means there is some voltage source. What's the potential? I don't know off hand, but I'd assume its 12VDC?
Consider it,
KingFisher
Most compressors already have a pressure switch. This would be the device to actuate either a throttle actuator or, possibly, an electric clutch (not go-kart type). My rider mower has a 12VDC system. Most small mowers have a coil which means there is some voltage source. What's the potential? I don't know off hand, but I'd assume its 12VDC?
Consider it,
KingFisher
#7
Couldn't a small AC to DC inverter be used to get the 12 v? Of course, that means having a 110v cord involved, somewhat defeating the purpose of going to gas.
How do those old, inline gas engined welders control the throttle? I've seen some built back in the '60's that would idle down until you struck an arc....
How do those old, inline gas engined welders control the throttle? I've seen some built back in the '60's that would idle down until you struck an arc....
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#8
Why reinvent the wheel. You have got to approach this from the correct angle.
So we assume you have no electricity on this machine. What other utility is there? Compressed air of course. So what you need is an unloader valve that works when compressed air is applied and a throttle control actuator to push the throttle to idle when the pressure is high enough. And you need an air governor. It sends pressure down a control line when the main line gets to the cutoff pressure and relieves the control line when the mainline drops. The air governor and unloader valve I imagine you might find on a Mack Midliner or other European truck in a junk yard. The throttle control might be a little trickier but shouldn't be that hard to find at all.
Birken
So we assume you have no electricity on this machine. What other utility is there? Compressed air of course. So what you need is an unloader valve that works when compressed air is applied and a throttle control actuator to push the throttle to idle when the pressure is high enough. And you need an air governor. It sends pressure down a control line when the main line gets to the cutoff pressure and relieves the control line when the mainline drops. The air governor and unloader valve I imagine you might find on a Mack Midliner or other European truck in a junk yard. The throttle control might be a little trickier but shouldn't be that hard to find at all.
Birken
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