View Poll Results: Does MPG's imporve without Tailgate?
Yes - a lot 5% and More
7
16.67%
Yes - a little 1 - 5%
16
38.10%
No
18
42.86%
No Gets Worse MPG
1
2.38%
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Tailgates Up, Down, Doesn't Matter?
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Originally posted by ArMAgeDDoN_PoB
I know, it amazed me too. I know it sounds like TOTAL bull****, but it's true. Before, when I drove to my buddies, (about 1 hour drive from my house) it used to take about a quarter of a tank to get there and back. That drive only takes a little more than an 1/8th of a tank, now. I've even tried to make my truck burn a quarter of a tank on that drive, and it just wont do it. It doesn't make any sense to me either. I havn't built the motor any since I took the tailgate off, either. I had to help haul some stuff for his sister the other day, and I put my tailgate back on, and my miliage went back down to what it was before. Strange as hell, but true. My truck also handles alot better with the tailgate off, too.
I know, it amazed me too. I know it sounds like TOTAL bull****, but it's true. Before, when I drove to my buddies, (about 1 hour drive from my house) it used to take about a quarter of a tank to get there and back. That drive only takes a little more than an 1/8th of a tank, now. I've even tried to make my truck burn a quarter of a tank on that drive, and it just wont do it. It doesn't make any sense to me either. I havn't built the motor any since I took the tailgate off, either. I had to help haul some stuff for his sister the other day, and I put my tailgate back on, and my miliage went back down to what it was before. Strange as hell, but true. My truck also handles alot better with the tailgate off, too.
If you are judging just from the gauge and not actual gallons at the pump, your method needs to be changed. A fuel gauge is not accurate enough to determine better MPG.
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areas of drag ....are the rear bumper... axles ...... and the wind dam aka tail gate.... i run with it up and down and yes i do get better fuel economy with it down.. with in the last month i damaged my gate and had it off and the economy jumped even higher. I drive over a mountain pass weekly and the winds there can exceed 50 miles an hour. with my gate off i felt less drag than i felt with the gate on. i also noticed that with the gate off on the old country roads i stirred up more dust on the side of the road, with the gate on the air flow gets traped and loops back on itself. in the bed area. don't believe me put and empty soda can in the bed next to the cap drive down the freeway and watch the can do flips in the bed...take the gate off and the can just sits in the corner.
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Originally posted by Steven@nd
If you are judging just from the gauge and not actual gallons at the pump, your method needs to be changed. A fuel gauge is not accurate enough to determine better MPG.
If you are judging just from the gauge and not actual gallons at the pump, your method needs to be changed. A fuel gauge is not accurate enough to determine better MPG.
#21
I just read at the dealership, someone, I cant remeber who, did a windtunnel study on the subject. The verdict was that drag coeffecient is lower with the tailgate up, because a mass of air is trapped in the bed and it begins to rotate and diverts the airflow over the top. I would tend to think that lower drag means higher MPG. I'm going to trust the guys with the PHD's and a wind tunnel and run with my tailgate up.
#22
Well all I know is that my truck with the tailgate down got almost a 1mpg improvement on the drive to Corvallis, Oregon to Biggs Junction. 3 trips with it up consisted of an average of 16.64 MPG and 3 trips down consisted of 17.45 average.....that is with an average speed of 72 mph all trips. for the record this is a 1993 4x4 short box standard cab f-150 with an E-4OD, 5.0L and 4:10 gears I might add.
One thing to think about......my tailgate weighs like 120 damn pounds with the diamond plate that covers the whole bedside, that can be like one small passenger......my truck also weighs 4,550 lbs with full tank of fuel (if anyone cares). So I can see where removing the tailgate could help gas mileage do too weight reduction.
One thing to think about......my tailgate weighs like 120 damn pounds with the diamond plate that covers the whole bedside, that can be like one small passenger......my truck also weighs 4,550 lbs with full tank of fuel (if anyone cares). So I can see where removing the tailgate could help gas mileage do too weight reduction.
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That is my point. With it up the wind has less surface area to contact because an air "dome" is created with it up. But either way I've tried it up or down and it doesn't matter squat for mileage. I'm not sure how everyone's comparisons are being done. Was the temp. the exact same both tries, how about wind, etc.
#29
Originally posted by downhillfast
I just read at the dealership........ I'm going to trust the guys with the PHD's and a wind tunnel and run with my tailgate up.
I just read at the dealership........ I'm going to trust the guys with the PHD's and a wind tunnel and run with my tailgate up.
I know that the tailgate up uses more gas, just look at the NASAR trucks they have a fin on the back that provides downforce and at the same time it makes a bigger hole in the air causing them to go slower
#30
Simple question: If leaving the tailgate down is better for mileage and better airflow out the back, why would a truck, such as the Lightning, who's sole purpose is to go fast and not worry about anything falling out of the back, have a tailgate? If it were so detrimental to the airflow of the truck, why wouldn't the Ford engineers have decided that it is better to just put a net or other similar device in?