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Old 10-02-2003, 10:16 PM
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Auto trans Vs standard trans??

Which one will have the least amount of problems, and which one will give better gas mileage??
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Old 10-02-2003, 10:28 PM
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I'm about to be on my 3rd clutch, but I'm pretty hard on my truck. Pullin stumps, racin people, wheeling, towing, etc. My original clutch was shot from a rear main leak, and I think the dealer didn't put the next clutch in properly either though. Was kinda mushy when I got it back from the warranty work. I much prefer a manual over an auto, but I honestly wish I had gotten an automatic at this point. The stock clutches are the weak link in the drivetrain, but there are guys here who I'm sure have put over 100K on the original stock clutch. I'm putting a Luk replacement kit on my truck in the next couple months which is far superior to the stock unit from what I have read around here. Just my .02.

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Old 10-02-2003, 10:45 PM
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How many miles do you have?
 
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The first clutch was replaced at 37000. I just clocked 65000 about 3 days ago. I drive a LOT, but I'm sure there are cats here who drive more than I do.

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Old 10-02-2003, 11:24 PM
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"Wheeling", sure it puts your clutch through hell but think of all the miles of wear you are saving for your front tires!
 
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Old 10-02-2003, 11:56 PM
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Manual will give better mileage over a slush box. Manuals tend to last longer. Even when they seem like there about to die they keep going. The bad part is the clutch if you abuse it or don't know how to drive. A clutch can last well over 100,000 miles depending on use and if you know how to use it.

Manuals don't suffer from over heating to the degree autos do. Require less care. Cheaper to do an oil change on.

Manauls don't second guess themselves. Manuals stay where you put them ie don't hunt for gears. I hate that.

Persoanlly I have 255,000 miles on an original clutch. Its all in knowing how to make it last.

My 150 just got a clucth about 2 years ago at 90,000 miles. I did it just cause I had to pull the tranny to replace a seal and figured I replace the clutch. But it was in great shape, at least half life left.

I go manual. No auto here.
 
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Old 10-04-2003, 05:29 AM
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I agree with 13hondacr250. I just got my F-250 but I drove an 88 Ford Ranger 4x4 I bought brand new for 15 years, 305,000 miles. Replaced the clutch once when transmission went south at 164,000. And it was worn only about 60%.

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I'm a full time RVer, and put about 25K per year on my 2000 F350, pulling a heavy trailer. Mileage is 85K now. I use a 6-speed manual transmission, and I love it.

My former truck was a 1994 F350 with the E40D auto tranny. I lost the transmission at 42K miles.

I know many full time RVers who have had to replace their Ford automatic transmissions. One is on his eighth tranny. (Thank goodness he has the extended warranty.) I don't know any full time RVers who have lost their manual transmission.

Admittedly, the preceding paragraph is purely observational, and in no way scientific. It may just be that 95 percent of the heavy towers have automatic transmissions--and 95 percent of the tranny failures would be in that group if the auto and manual transmissions had equal reliability.

That said, I still FEEL that my Ford manual transmission is far superior to Ford's automatic transmission if you a towing heavy weights. And, I KNOW that the manual gives me much more control of engine RPMs.

Unless Ford comes out with an Allison transmission option, my next truck will have their 6-speed manual transmission.

 
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I'm kinda partial to my manual also. I especially like the granny gear for towing, really helps you get moving.
 
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Old 10-05-2003, 10:58 AM
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I have a manual tranny also, and love it, although I've never used an auto PSD. If you're looking at getting a used PSD (Stampede), make sure you get the maintenance records somehow (hopefully) and see what it looks like. If you think there could be an issue, look at a BTS or Suncoast auto tranny. Again, I haven't used an auto, but from what I've read here and at the dieselstop forum, people are very satisfied with them.

As far as manuals go, the clutch system by Ford is not the best, but it's hit and miss. I'm at 61,500, and had a clutch master/slave unit go out on me a month ago. I'm going to change to a Luk clutch soon, and people also rave about it as clutches go because the shifting is so much smoother. Overall I think manual trannys don't have as many durability problems as autos, generally speaking.
 
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