Where The Devil Is My Coolant Going?
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Where The Devil Is My Coolant Going?
4.0L engine, 221,000 miles, is going through coolant to the tune of 1.5gal monthly. Suspect a head gasket or cracked head.
A forum seach on the topic reveals all sorts of telltale signs but this engine does not display any of the classic symptoms -no milky/cloudy oil or oil in the coolant - no smoke or odors from the exhaust, no leaks under the vehicle.
No rise in the temp. gauge until coolant nearly empty. Heck, it idles fine, runs smoothly and continues to get 18+ mpg at its advanced age.
How could it go through this much coolant without any evidence? If the head gasket were leaking wouldn't there be an accompanying pressurization of the cooling system?
A forum seach on the topic reveals all sorts of telltale signs but this engine does not display any of the classic symptoms -no milky/cloudy oil or oil in the coolant - no smoke or odors from the exhaust, no leaks under the vehicle.
No rise in the temp. gauge until coolant nearly empty. Heck, it idles fine, runs smoothly and continues to get 18+ mpg at its advanced age.
How could it go through this much coolant without any evidence? If the head gasket were leaking wouldn't there be an accompanying pressurization of the cooling system?
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Where The Devil Is My Coolant Going?
Thanks for the replies.
The original post obviously offended the Automotive Gods and I am now suffering their wrath. Within 24 hours after posting, the engine is now acting up.
Looking back, I had a very slight frontal vibration that I took to be from a cold front end differential that would resolve after warm up. That vibration has worsened and is now definitely associated with the engine(misfiring) as well as a pinging and knocking sound under slight acceleration. (Distinctly different from eroded plug wire ping/rattle.)
Curiously, there still is no smoke or odor from the tailpipe. These newest engine noises have me convinced there is a problem with the heads. I will check the intake status but all was dry the last time I checked the rear engine area. Given the volume of coolant being consummed and lack of leakage it has to be going out the tailpipe. I'll keep my fingers crossed that it may only be an intake manifold problem.
The original post obviously offended the Automotive Gods and I am now suffering their wrath. Within 24 hours after posting, the engine is now acting up.
Looking back, I had a very slight frontal vibration that I took to be from a cold front end differential that would resolve after warm up. That vibration has worsened and is now definitely associated with the engine(misfiring) as well as a pinging and knocking sound under slight acceleration. (Distinctly different from eroded plug wire ping/rattle.)
Curiously, there still is no smoke or odor from the tailpipe. These newest engine noises have me convinced there is a problem with the heads. I will check the intake status but all was dry the last time I checked the rear engine area. Given the volume of coolant being consummed and lack of leakage it has to be going out the tailpipe. I'll keep my fingers crossed that it may only be an intake manifold problem.
Last edited by aerocolorado; 09-16-2003 at 12:21 PM.
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Where The Devil Is My Coolant Going?
stepman,
I changed them earlier this summer and did notice one (#5, center) had small amount of fluffy deposit on it I did not see on the others. I wasn't sure what to attribute it to at the time, but in hindsight perhaps that was an early indicator. I'll be tearing it down shortly and take another look at those plugs for confirmation.
I changed them earlier this summer and did notice one (#5, center) had small amount of fluffy deposit on it I did not see on the others. I wasn't sure what to attribute it to at the time, but in hindsight perhaps that was an early indicator. I'll be tearing it down shortly and take another look at those plugs for confirmation.
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Update:
Took Homer's suggestion to check the lower intake manifold bolts. There was no obvious leakage at the rear and rechecking #5 sparkplug revealed all well there, no deposits which surprised me, given how poorly the engine was running.
None of the manifold bolts appeared to be obviously loose but I retorqued them to be sure. Two days of driving now finds the engine running normally again with no stumble or mis-firing as previously. It is too early to tell whether or not this cured the coolant loss. I'll keep my fingers crossed it has.
Took Homer's suggestion to check the lower intake manifold bolts. There was no obvious leakage at the rear and rechecking #5 sparkplug revealed all well there, no deposits which surprised me, given how poorly the engine was running.
None of the manifold bolts appeared to be obviously loose but I retorqued them to be sure. Two days of driving now finds the engine running normally again with no stumble or mis-firing as previously. It is too early to tell whether or not this cured the coolant loss. I'll keep my fingers crossed it has.
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Just something to think about, but my truck was loosing coolant somewhere. Ended up leaking out the water pump, it would wait about half an hour after shuting off the motor then start leaking. I still can not figure out why it would wait, other than it didn't like me at the time. It may not be the case for you but, just something to think of. Good luck.
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