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Old 03-23-2017, 06:50 PM
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410 fe intake questions

Went to a new to me parts store today. While checking the propriator out for FE savyness he mentions he has a intake for a 410. He also said it was incompatable with regular heads. What is the real story?
 
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Well, your new buddy there knows:

--NOTHING about the 410
--NOTHING about Ford casting codes
--Only enough about the FE to think that this is an FE* manifold. Of course, as veteran member 69cj once said, "....Helen Keller could spot it."

The casting code starts "D5TE..". This translates to"

D = 1970s
5 = 5th year, thus 1975
T = Truck
E = Engine engineering department.

You also have a date code showing, 7K4. This would be:

7 = 1977
K = October
4 = 4th day

This may be an FT manifold or a service replacement. I will check a couple things and may be back.

The 410 was 1966-67 only, in Mercury cars. There is NO chance this manifold has anything to do with a 410.

On edit: It is an FT manifold. The FE exhaust crossover ports are offset. The FT ports are in the center, as shown in your pics. More pics and diagrams here:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/42484.......++(+Photos)

That manifold won't work for an FE motor. It was used on 361 and 391 FT medium truck engines, and possibly their smog variants. (359/389)

*Your buddy knew a little about the FE but nothing about the FT.
 
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Shame. Like the plenum setup. looks like its worth about 5 bucks at the recyclers.
 
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Intake for a 391FT HD truck. The large heat riser ports give it away was a HD truck manifold along with the date code.
391HD truck engines where the last of the FE/FT series with four barrel carbs.
I never heard of a FE power pickup with factory four barrel and the last FE powered car engine with four barrel was a 70 428.
It would have been on some of the last FT's produced, Ford switched to the 370/429 series engines in MD/HD trucks in 78 or 79.
 
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Originally Posted by stuart olson
Shame. Like the plenum setup. looks like its worth about 5 bucks at the recyclers.
Too bad that manifold isn't closer to where I live. A lot of the local farmers (my brother included), pay good money to put those manifolds on their farm trucks that originally had the factory two-barrel carb. While they are still underpowered when hauling 500 bushel of grain, they actually do help. A local mechanic here tops them off with an aftermarket four-barrel carb and everyone is happy.
 
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
Well, your new buddy there knows:

--NOTHING about the 410
--NOTHING about Ford casting codes
--Only enough about the FE to think that this is an FE* manifold. Of course, as veteran member 69cj once said, "....Helen Keller could spot it."

The casting code starts "D5TE..". This translates to"

D = 1970s
5 = 5th year, thus 1975
T = Truck
E = Engine engineering department.

You also have a date code showing, 7K4. This would be:

7 = 1977
K = October
4 = 4th day

This may be an FT manifold or a service replacement. I will check a couple things and may be back.

The 410 was 1966-67 only, in Mercury cars. There is NO chance this manifold has anything to do with a 410.

On edit: It is an FT manifold. The FE exhaust crossover ports are offset. The FT ports are in the center, as shown in your pics. More pics and diagrams here:

Chris Craft Commander Forum:)

That manifold won't work for an FE motor. It was used on 361 and 391 FT medium truck engines, and possibly their smog variants. (359/389)

*Your buddy knew a little about the FE but nothing about the FT.
FYI, the 58 - 60 Edsels also had a 410 available but it was part of the MEL engine family which included some Mercury and Lincoln engines.
 
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Old 03-30-2017, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Destroked 450
I never heard of a FE powered pickup with factory four barrel and the last FE powered car engine with four barrel was a 70 428.
1974/76 F100/350 390's available with an optional 4V carburetor, VIN engine code (4th digit): M

370/429 replaced FT engines in 1979.

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FYI, the 58-60 Edsels also had a 410 available, but it was part of the MEL engine family which included some Mercury and Lincoln engines (383 & 430).
Edsel 410 only installed in 1958 Corsair (as an option over the FE 361) & Citation (standard equipment).

1959: Pacer & Citation cancelled, Ranger and Corsair continued, available engines: 223 I-6 (Ranger), 292 2V Ranger (as an option), 332 2V Corsair.

Pacer and Corsair cancelled at the end of the 1959 model run.

The only 1960 Edsel's (entire line cancelled November 16, 1959) were Ranger 2/4 dr. sedans/2 dr. hardtop/convertible and Villager 6 & 9 pass. station wagons. Available engines: 223 I-6, 292 2V and 332 2V

FoMoCo expected to sell 200,000 Edsel's in 1958, but only 64,110 were sold.

The Edsel Division was then folded into the L/M Division forming M-E-L and Edsel's prexy James J. Nance (former prexy of Packard) was fired.

Ed: 7K4 = Intake manifold cast the 4th week (4) of October (K), 1977 (7). A = January, M = December, the letter I was skipped.
 
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I tried to condense my post. Guess that made it too generalized.
 
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Interesting to know a four barrel carb was available for some FE powered pickups, I guess no one around here ordered one.
 
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production #'s

Would be interesting to know how many 4 barrels rolled out of the factory in F-series, just don't see your average fella ordering one in 197?. I imagine some fleet or delivery trucks would be packaged or requested with the 4V....
 
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4v 390s and 410s

410 will NOT work on 390 or most fe they were med to high rise engines you will have half to one inch taller intake over heads stick your fingers in the manifold only 66-67 made 410s
4v was on pickups in 76 77 have three of them and near everyone in the rural area around were i grew up had em ford cleaned out warehouses full of 390 dropped the compression put on hardened heads those years have two 410s one minus the crank and block coworkers kid cleaning out steal storage thought it was to go with the scap and that 410 runs circles around a 390 but with the soft heads the valves will hammer up into the heads with todays crap gas i ran propane on one did alright
manifold in pic top of page appears to be one of the 76-77 390 intakes its low and a d5 cast date
 

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What? Try again with closer-to-proper sentence structure and some punctuation.

Why wake up a 7 year old thread?
 
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Originally Posted by mwfarm
410 will NOT work on 390 or most fe they were med to high rise engines you will have half to one inch taller intake over heads stick your fingers in the manifold only 66-67 made 410s
4v was on pickups in 76 77 have three of them and near everyone in the rural area around were i grew up had em ford cleaned out warehouses full of 390 dropped the compression put on hardened heads those years have two 410s one minus the crank and block coworkers kid cleaning out steal storage thought it was to go with the scap and that 410 runs circles around a 390 but with the soft heads the valves will hammer up into the heads with todays crap gas i ran propane on one did alright
manifold in pic top of page appears to be one of the 76-77 390 intakes its low and a d5 cast date
This thread is 7 years old, but to clarify that is a 361/391FT truck intake, will not work on any FE head
You can run later intakes on early heads and early intakes on late heads. You won’t have a perfect port match but they will work
I’ve ran a 428CJ intake on 406 heads and presently have a 406 tri power to go on a set of Dove aluminum 428 heads
 
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