1963 F600 4x4
#16
That is a cool looking truck.
Any clue on how the 2 speed rear works with the TH400 auto?
I ask because IIRC the ones I drove you would let off the throttle, clutch in and switch rear end gear when going down a gear going up would be like below.
With no clutch would up just let off the throttle a little, "float the gear" and switch rear gear up or down?
The rear I am sure is nothing like over drive. The 2 gears (just saying) could be 4.56 & 4.11.
If looking for over drive:
A Gear Venders over drive unit will bolt to the rear of that TH400.
Crap forget that (maybe), I forgot you have 4x4 (4x6) and do not know where the transfer case is. If bolted to the TH400 then the GV OD unit will not work as the unit bolts to the trany.
If the transfer case is a unit by its self and I think it is you could use the GV OD
Advance Adaptors Range Splitter OD may work if the trany & TC are bolted together?
Dave ----
Any clue on how the 2 speed rear works with the TH400 auto?
I ask because IIRC the ones I drove you would let off the throttle, clutch in and switch rear end gear when going down a gear going up would be like below.
With no clutch would up just let off the throttle a little, "float the gear" and switch rear gear up or down?
The rear I am sure is nothing like over drive. The 2 gears (just saying) could be 4.56 & 4.11.
If looking for over drive:
A Gear Venders over drive unit will bolt to the rear of that TH400.
Crap forget that (maybe), I forgot you have 4x4 (4x6) and do not know where the transfer case is. If bolted to the TH400 then the GV OD unit will not work as the unit bolts to the trany.
If the transfer case is a unit by its self and I think it is you could use the GV OD
Advance Adaptors Range Splitter OD may work if the trany & TC are bolted together?
Dave ----
#17
That is a cool looking truck.
Any clue on how the 2 speed rear works with the TH400 auto?
I ask because IIRC the ones I drove you would let off the throttle, clutch in and switch rear end gear when going down a gear going up would be like below.
With no clutch would up just let off the throttle a little, "float the gear" and switch rear gear up or down?
The rear I am sure is nothing like over drive. The 2 gears (just saying) could be 4.56 & 4.11.
If looking for over drive:
A Gear Venders over drive unit will bolt to the rear of that TH400.
Crap forget that (maybe), I forgot you have 4x4 (4x6) and do not know where the transfer case is. If bolted to the TH400 then the GV OD unit will not work as the unit bolts to the trany.
If the transfer case is a unit by its self and I think it is you could use the GV OD
Advance Adaptors Range Splitter OD may work if the trany & TC are bolted together?
Dave ----
Any clue on how the 2 speed rear works with the TH400 auto?
I ask because IIRC the ones I drove you would let off the throttle, clutch in and switch rear end gear when going down a gear going up would be like below.
With no clutch would up just let off the throttle a little, "float the gear" and switch rear gear up or down?
The rear I am sure is nothing like over drive. The 2 gears (just saying) could be 4.56 & 4.11.
If looking for over drive:
A Gear Venders over drive unit will bolt to the rear of that TH400.
Crap forget that (maybe), I forgot you have 4x4 (4x6) and do not know where the transfer case is. If bolted to the TH400 then the GV OD unit will not work as the unit bolts to the trany.
If the transfer case is a unit by its self and I think it is you could use the GV OD
Advance Adaptors Range Splitter OD may work if the trany & TC are bolted together?
Dave ----
As for the overdrive, that's a FANTASTIC idea! I remember this truck really spun the rpm heading down the freeway, so the overdrive is definitely something I'm going to look in to. The Transfercase is about two feet behind the transmission, so I should have plenty of room!
#18
Dave thank you for your reply. I'm not for certain (I was very young when this truck was running last) but I think he just started off in high on the two speed.
As for the overdrive, that's a FANTASTIC idea! I remember this truck really spun the rpm heading down the freeway, so the overdrive is definitely something I'm going to look in to. The Transfercase is about two feet behind the transmission, so I should have plenty of room!
As for the overdrive, that's a FANTASTIC idea! I remember this truck really spun the rpm heading down the freeway, so the overdrive is definitely something I'm going to look in to. The Transfercase is about two feet behind the transmission, so I should have plenty of room!
As you said you start off in 1 gear, around town low and before getting on the high way stop and put it in high.
If the TC is that far behind you could then go with the Gear Vender OD unit and a shorter drive shaft to the TC. That would help keep the RPM down.
Dave ----
#19
Your 22.5" wheels are the tubeless one piece style. Not widow makers. But one small thing to be aware of. I can't see well enough in your pictures to know if your Napco fits the pattern, but on 1963 and some 1964 F-600s Ford fitted hub piloted wheels having the 6 lug x 8.75" bolt pattern. All prior years used standard Budd style stud piloted wheels, and Ford returned to the stud piloted system on some 1964s and in 1965. If yours are hub piloted, no hub piloted replacement wheels have existed for many years. Take good care of yours.
Sorry that I can't offer much on your Napco. I'd suggest contacting Chuck Mantiglia at Chuck's Trucks in CT. He may have info. I've also seen Napco manuals listed occasionally on eBay. Stu
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Sorry that I can't offer much on your Napco. I'd suggest contacting Chuck Mantiglia at Chuck's Trucks in CT. He may have info. I've also seen Napco manuals listed occasionally on eBay. Stu
Chucks Trucks LLC., Chuck's Trucks, Chucks Trucks
I'm getting acquainted with the specs and was wondering if it is possible to use wheel adaptors to use 8 lugs rims for tubeless tires. I know there are one piece 6 lug rims for tubeless tires available from American Wheel in Pasco WA, no aluminum wheels available though. Any thoughts for restoring my sanity?
#20
Welcome agstr. Are you wanting to use 8 lug tubeless wheels similar to those on your F-250? If so I fear they won't clear your drums. Adapters could be made by Arrowcraft or some other company to let you fit bigger 19.5" or 22.5" tires with the F-450 type 10 x 7.25" pattern, or large truck 10 x 8.75" or 10 x 11.25" pattern. But custom adapters aren't cheap. I've got to think a yard search would yield a set of not so old Accuride 28157 tubeless 22.5" x 6.75" wheels having your 6 x 8.75" pattern. Accuride no longer lists them brand new, but I bet an Accuride partner company like Wheels Now could get you a set. Stu
#21
Welcome agstr. Are you wanting to use 8 lug tubeless wheels similar to those on your F-250? If so I fear they won't clear your drums. Adapters could be made by Arrowcraft or some other company to let you fit bigger 19.5" or 22.5" tires with the F-450 type 10 x 7.25" pattern, or large truck 10 x 8.75" or 10 x 11.25" pattern. But custom adapters aren't cheap. I've got to thing a yard search would yield a set of not so old Accuride 28157 tubeless 22.5" x 6.75" wheels having your 6 x 8.75" pattern. Accuride no longer lists them brand new, but I bet an Accuride partner company like Wheels Now could get you a set. Stu
I'll check the school bus yard to try and save some $$; there is an outfit in the Tri-cities, WA (American wheel; Home - American Wheel Specialist) that sells powder coated steel 22.5"x6.75" 6 lug wheels -- I'm also looking into a drum to disc brake conversion (mainly to increase brake reliability)--do you know of anyone that tried it to also enable more wheel choices, and to get around the difficulty of getting drum brake replacement parts?
And this is probably an insane, stupid newbie question but I'll ask anyway: can the 20" tires on the split rims be mounted on wheels for tubeless tires?
Respectfully,
Del
#22
Thanks Stu,
I'll check the school bus yard to try and save some $$; there is an outfit in the Tri-cities, WA (American wheel; Home - American Wheel Specialist) that sells powder coated steel 22.5"x6.75" 6 lug wheels -- I'm also looking into a drum to disc brake conversion (mainly to increase brake reliability)--do you know of anyone that tried it to also enable more wheel choices, and to get around the difficulty of getting drum brake replacement parts?
And this is probably an insane, stupid newbie question but I'll ask anyway: can the 20" tires on the split rims be mounted on wheels for tubeless tires?
Respectfully,
Del
I'll check the school bus yard to try and save some $$; there is an outfit in the Tri-cities, WA (American wheel; Home - American Wheel Specialist) that sells powder coated steel 22.5"x6.75" 6 lug wheels -- I'm also looking into a drum to disc brake conversion (mainly to increase brake reliability)--do you know of anyone that tried it to also enable more wheel choices, and to get around the difficulty of getting drum brake replacement parts?
And this is probably an insane, stupid newbie question but I'll ask anyway: can the 20" tires on the split rims be mounted on wheels for tubeless tires?
Respectfully,
Del
There is a thread that has been going about a member making a disc brake conversion for 2wd and MH big trucks. Go back a few pages and you should find it. If you can't I'll help.
The tube type 20" tires are only gonna fit two piece wheels. Not tubeless. Stu
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