New shocks - DIY? Rancho 9000XLs (or others?)
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New shocks - DIY? Rancho 9000XLs (or others?)
After wondering if the shocks on my FX4 F350 are junk (the level of bouncing and jumping over expansion joints is crazy), I did some research and read a lot of posts about the OEM FX4 shocks being junk right from the start. I'm guessing a combo of that fact, and almost 40k on them, make it time for a new set.
A lot of folks talk about Bilstein or Fox, some say Rancho, and then some other higher end stuff (king), but I'm pretty sure Bilstein, Fox or Rancho would fit the bill for me.
After reading over the pros and cons of each, I'm leaning towards Rancho 9000XLs. Truck has 38k miles and as far as I know has no extra lift (easy way to know?), factory or not. It sits about 81" high to the roof.
I'm not an off roader in the sense that I don't do it as a sport/hobby. Just lots of dirt roads around the lakehouse and northern NH. But nothing crazy. And I tow, but not a huge trailer. A 6,000 pounds trailer snowmobile trailer when fully loaded. So I'm not looking at reservoir models and stuff like that.
A few things I'm trying to be careful of.
1. I don't want to reduce the GVWR of the truck at all with the replacements. I don't believe shocks do anything related to that, but just making sure.
2. I'm not looking to change the height of the truck at all. In fact, if it raises it at all, that's a problem. I like having the truck in the garage at night, and right now I only clear the roof by 1/2".
3. The reason I'm doing this is just ride quality and control. I know it's a 350 and it's going to have a stiff ride. I'm fine with that. Just looking to overall improve the ride quality as best I can, and not change the truck's capabilities downward in any way.
4. I'm not afraid of spending the money for the right shock for my needs, but also not looking to just spend money just because. To me they are "just shocks."
I misguided on my choice? Should I consider Fox, Bilstein HDs, 5100s or Rancho 7000s?
And lastly, is this a job you can do in your driveway without a lift, or should I bring it someone? They aren't coil over spring, so not seeing the difficulty there like it would be with a coil over design.
Thanks!
A lot of folks talk about Bilstein or Fox, some say Rancho, and then some other higher end stuff (king), but I'm pretty sure Bilstein, Fox or Rancho would fit the bill for me.
After reading over the pros and cons of each, I'm leaning towards Rancho 9000XLs. Truck has 38k miles and as far as I know has no extra lift (easy way to know?), factory or not. It sits about 81" high to the roof.
I'm not an off roader in the sense that I don't do it as a sport/hobby. Just lots of dirt roads around the lakehouse and northern NH. But nothing crazy. And I tow, but not a huge trailer. A 6,000 pounds trailer snowmobile trailer when fully loaded. So I'm not looking at reservoir models and stuff like that.
A few things I'm trying to be careful of.
1. I don't want to reduce the GVWR of the truck at all with the replacements. I don't believe shocks do anything related to that, but just making sure.
2. I'm not looking to change the height of the truck at all. In fact, if it raises it at all, that's a problem. I like having the truck in the garage at night, and right now I only clear the roof by 1/2".
3. The reason I'm doing this is just ride quality and control. I know it's a 350 and it's going to have a stiff ride. I'm fine with that. Just looking to overall improve the ride quality as best I can, and not change the truck's capabilities downward in any way.
4. I'm not afraid of spending the money for the right shock for my needs, but also not looking to just spend money just because. To me they are "just shocks."
I misguided on my choice? Should I consider Fox, Bilstein HDs, 5100s or Rancho 7000s?
And lastly, is this a job you can do in your driveway without a lift, or should I bring it someone? They aren't coil over spring, so not seeing the difficulty there like it would be with a coil over design.
Thanks!
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Shocks do not change the height or weight carrying ability of the truck those are both determined by the springs. There is no factory lift the only way one is the difference in springs selected and engine choice or both so if you have 2 identical trucks and he has 5200lb springs and the other has 6000lb springs the truck with the heavier spring will sit a bit higher but it's not enough of a difference to get shocks for for a lifted front end. Most of the stock height replacement shocks work with up to 2 or 2.5" leveling kits but again there is no factory lift if you haven't modified the suspension you get stock height shocks.
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Thanks. I actually just updated my main post too, as I didn't see replies. After much more reading, I think I'm set on Rancho 9000XLs.
I have a PSD too, so heavier front end than gas model.
Seems like a lot of guys talk about doing this themselves. Is it possible without a lift? Could I kill myself trying to get these things in? LOL. Thinking of the old days with coil over and struts.
I have a PSD too, so heavier front end than gas model.
Seems like a lot of guys talk about doing this themselves. Is it possible without a lift? Could I kill myself trying to get these things in? LOL. Thinking of the old days with coil over and struts.
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I didn't a ton of research on these and went with the Bilstein 5100 and they are a great match for the 350. Makes the ride more "in control" Loaded down with salt and a plow and they perform great. Worth every penny.
If you can do them yourself is kind of hard to tell without knowing you personally. Everyone has their limits and knowledge. There isn't anything trickey about doing them though.
If you can do them yourself is kind of hard to tell without knowing you personally. Everyone has their limits and knowledge. There isn't anything trickey about doing them though.
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I'm very mechanical and handy. Can do pretty much anything I put my mind too, and have a pretty solid tool setup. But just thinking about suspension work on a big truck, rolling around underneath on the ground, how possible it is. Plus, getting the bolts out of the OEM shocks, if rusted and stuff.
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I had Rancho 5000s on an Armada for 4 years and not rust at all, so not as worried about that as I was when I first started this thread.
So on doing this yourself, are the shocks not really under that much pressure? Do you need to jack the truck up at all, or can it be sitting on it's tires? I'm sure I can find some posts online about how to do this...I do have air tools too, and 3/4" impact wrenches to help with removal...
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Thanks. You posted at the same I was. So since there's enough room under there without jacking it up much, can you remove the shocks without jacking it, or they compressed too much if not jacked up and hanging, so to speak?