SMOKE WHEN COLD STARTING
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SMOKE WHEN COLD STARTING
Haven't ever posted here until today. I have an 2006 F350 diesel. Starting my engine when cold produces a lot of smoke. It can take up to 10 times turning the key to finally get it to run. This is not a problem when I have the engine warmer plugged in. After the engine warms up the engine does not smoke anymore. Thinking about finally taking it in and having it worked on but thought I would ask your opinions first. I ran a quart of very expensive injector cleaner in it with no improvement. The engine light will sometimes come on and other times it won't come on. I did take the truck to Oreillys and had the engine analyzer on it and two pages of possibilities (problems) came up. Hope someone out there can point me into the right direction. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Engine has 110K miles. Thanks
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Thanks for your reply. I will change all the parts you mentioned but is there a better product than Motorcraft parts or is Motorcraft OK?
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Haven't ever posted here until today. I have an 2006 F350 diesel. Starting my engine when cold produces a lot of smoke. It can take up to 10 times turning the key to finally get it to run. This is not a problem when I have the engine warmer plugged in. After the engine warms up the engine does not smoke anymore. Thinking about finally taking it in and having it worked on but thought I would ask your opinions first. I ran a quart of very expensive injector cleaner in it with no improvement. The engine light will sometimes come on and other times it won't come on. I did take the truck to Oreillys and had the engine analyzer on it and two pages of possibilities (problems) came up. Hope someone out there can point me into the right direction. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Engine has 110K miles. Thanks
This does not sound like a glow plug issue. I would have initially thought it would be injector(s), and still could be. What brand of injector cleaner did you use.
Since you are having to crank over the engine multiple times to get it started, this could also be a symptom of a dying FICM.
It would do you a world of good to visit the 6.0 Diesel forum on this site.
If you don't learn about this engine, you may end up being extremely disappointed in the truck you have. They require meticulous maintenance, and if not kept up on they will deteriorate quickly. But once everything is running well, these engines are amazing.
From the sounds of it, it seems you have your work cut out for you with a bunch of codes that had popped up when they checked it at the auto parts store.
This is why many of us who own 6.0's have live data scanners and code readers. So that we can quickly, efficiently, and with the least amount of cost, fix the things that actually need fixing.
The reason you ONLY use Motorcraft parts is because of how particular these engines are, and the aftermarket products do not measure up PRECISELY.
I hope this helps you a little better, and welcome to the site, hopefully we will see you over at the 6.0L diesel side of this forum.
Thanks - Preston
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I used several injector cleaners in the past, but the last cleaning was a $60+ bottle of BG244. Didn't do any good at all. I haven't purchased any parts as of yet and was surprised to hear it may be another part. I will take it to Orielly's again to see what codes come up this time. I also see that i did post on here before with an issue i had with a 2002 Expedition. Forgot all about that vehicle that the spark plugs would fly out of the head. Seems like my only Ford that i haven't had issues with is my 1990 E350 with a 460. Not a problem with the last 120K miles. Thanks again for your reply.
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These are awfully expensive motors to just start throwing parts at. Ideally, you'd pick up a monitoring solution of some sort - the Torque App, a ScanGauge II, an Edge Insight CTS - something like that. Any of these tools will provide you live data monitoring and not just codes. Adding insult to injury, many times a code will be a 'false code' and not indicative of the true issue.
For starters and just to rule it in or out, if you own a digital volt meter already, I'd start by checking FICM output voltage. A how to can be found at 17. Can I test my FICM to ensure that it is the culprit?
Good luck!
For starters and just to rule it in or out, if you own a digital volt meter already, I'd start by checking FICM output voltage. A how to can be found at 17. Can I test my FICM to ensure that it is the culprit?
Good luck!
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Smoke when cold starting
I plugged in my ScanGauge 2 today and ran a scan. It said there are 8 codes but only 2 codes would show up when pushing the next button. The codes are P0261 and P0264 both of which say low voltage to fuel injectors 1 and 2. Watched some videos about testing the FICM and will hopefully test it next week. Guess this is the next step I should take. I'll fill you all in hopefully in a week or so. Thanks
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Finally got around to checking my FICM. Meter read 48 with key to on. Dropped down to 28 volts when key was turned to start and when engine was running. We have emissions where I live for diesels and when I call the emissions place to make an appointment they ask if there are any tunes or changes to the engine that would give a false reading. They say any programs need to be taken out. So, if I were to purchase/build a FICM, where would be the best place to look and what program would be best to run that wouldn't need to be erased to pass emissions? Thanks
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Ed--I went to your web site and read the different programs you supply. I tow a lot of weight at times and i live above 7000 foot. Not sure if your tunes are meant for here or not. Anyway, what would you suggest without upgrading my exhaust system or anything else? Thanks
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Ed--I went to your web site and read the different programs you supply. I tow a lot of weight at times and i live above 7000 foot. Not sure if your tunes are meant for here or not. Anyway, what would you suggest without upgrading my exhaust system or anything else? Thanks
Ed
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