i dont want to get off topic but JKBrad, my 2016 supercab 6.5 4x4 fit and finish is pretty darn good, panels line up and fit and the paint is very good. I did have the passenger side kick panel, the one just ahead of the door sill trim, i was able to see the rocker panel between the gap of the panel and the rubber weathersrip. Dealer ordered new panel and snapped it in and its alot better, otherwise, its pretty good for a mass produced truck. I also had the dealers wash jockeys scratch the heck out of my b-pillar trim panels, they were replaced by a total hack of a mechanic, not impressed as far as that went, not the factory's fault.

 

Well, my truck is a '15 so I'm sure newer ones are better.

 

I always thought the fit and finish was very good on my trucks. I think the touch and feel of the interior components is much better than a lot of other vehicles.

 

Overall I'd say Toyota builds a higher quality vehicle with better long term dependability. It's always been that way. Toyota cars and small trucks have been nothing but the best for a long time. I can't say the same thing about the Blundra
I have owned nothing but Toyota cars/trucks since 1991. I owned three older Ford trucks 1983,1985 and 1987 and they were the worst vehicles I've ever owned to date.


That said there is no way I'd own a Tundra. First off I really wanted to like the Tundra but as hard as I tried I just couldn't. I wanted the Crew Max with a 6.5' bed but they don't build that configuration.


That right there killed it for for me. The truck sucks the gas like there is no tomorrow. My immediate neighbors have three Tundras and they get no better than 13 city and 17 freeway. The neighbor with the lifted Tundra gets 11 mpg city and 14 on the freeway.


They get around 11+ mpg towing a 6500 lb trailer which is much better than the Ford F150 can do. My friends get around 8 mpg towing with their Ford F150's and that's downhill with a tail wind.


MPG's while towing and the reliability are the only advantages to the Tundra.
IMHO the Tundra is ugly and bloated looking. It really is in need of a major update instead of the lipstick they keep putting on it every year or so.
The interior is so dated and there is really nothing likeable about the truck. The Tundra is a major disappointment.


the New F150 has it beat up and down. Drive them both and see for yourself.

 

Your friends are doing something way wrong. See my previous post for details, but I got 9 MPG towing 9500 lbs at 75 MPH, 11 MPG towing 6000 lbs at 65 MPH, and 15 MPG towing 2000 lbs at 75 MPH. And those were for 1000 to 2400 miles each, with back-to-back tanks figured manually.

 

Wow....three pages. The OP hasn't been back since an hour after posting his one and only question. Well, maybe he's reading this but not not logging in...

 

The problem is that highway fuel economy is much more a function of wind resistance than it is weight. As an example, my dad's 2010 F150 got 9 MPG pulling an empty 7.5x18' trailer home. This box weighed 2,400 lbs, yet we got worse fuel economy than Gary did with almost four times that weight.

City MPGs depend more on weight, but on the highway it's mostly about wind resistance.

 

Yup!

 

When I downsized from my F-250, I was looking in the order:

Tacoma
Tundra
F-150

The Toyotas were first mainly because of reliability, how much I like my '14 4Runner (first Toyota I've owned, all others were Fords), and I had been much more impressed with Toyota service over Ford service. Not just Toyotacare, but the service centers were like the difference between a run down Kmart and a fancy hipster coffee shop. When something is done at Ford, I have to about track the service people down. At Toyota, they text me while I'm surfing the web in the well appointed waiting room. Even where I live now, the Ford and Toyota dealerships are owned by the same family, but there is still that difference in service. Given all that, I still bought the F-150.

I won't go into detail on the Tacoma as my reasons are not related to the OP. It is a great truck, but for several reasons I chose to pass it up. A main reason being that I want a bed where I can lay something like a drywall sheet flat on the bed. Certainly I could use the bedwall notches to make a rack, bit I didn't want that. There was also a payload issue.

Next was the Tundra. I really wanted to like it. A full size truck with Toyota quality. The gas mileage was one of the main dealbreakers. Also the 4.6 seemed a little anemic. As others have said, it is quite dated. Also, again, payload. For a full size, payload kinda sucks, especially when compared to the boost the aluminum gives the F-150.

Once I test drove a few F-150s, that pretty much did it for me. the 2.7 impressed the hell out of me, and ride quality was superb. I was wanting to not go back to Ford (or perhaps better said, wanting to go Toyota), but there was no way to convince myself not to after the test drives. Plus with the tailgate down I can lay full 4x8 sheets completely in the bed, and I can easily carry a half yard of even wet sand in the back. So I ended up with a 2.7 XLT supercab with the 6.5' bed.

I'm still super impressed and super happy with it. I generally keep my vehicles around ten years, so who knows what either Ford or Toyota will have out in 2026, but for now, this was the best choice for me.