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Help with fender id...

It has been my understanding that the fenders for the 1/2 ton panel truck are the same from 38-47. I also know that the fenders change as the truck gets larger, i,e. 3/4, 1 and 1.5 ton. Can't seem to confirm this in the parts book. Any of you guys know for sure?

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Pretty sure the 1 tons would be the same as the 1/2 tons, is the 1.5 tons that they got larger for the larger tire size.
I bet if you look in the book at tire sizes, instead of fender size, you will see when they made the fender wheel openings larger.
But I have a 1951 F5 1.5 ton and it has the larger wheel well opening and 20" tires.
 
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You've not said front or rear. I'll assume you are after the 1/2 ton "Commercial" model, so the fronts are alike 38-39, 40-41, and 42-47. The rears are alike 38-41, and 42-47. The tonner has larger wheel openings and different numbers both front and rear, same year breakdowns. Interesting the book even lists the DRW fenders for the big panel trucks.

Edit - on a 51 F-5 the front fenders are alike F-2 to F-6. Stu
 
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You've not said front or rear. I'll assume you are after the 1/2 ton "Commercial" model, so the fronts are alike 38-39, 40-41, and 42-47. The rears are alike 38-41, and 42-47. The tonner has larger wheel openings and different numbers both front and rear, same year breakdowns. Interesting the book even lists the DRW fenders for the big panel trucks.

Edit - on a 51 F-5 the front fenders are alike F-2 to F-6. Stu
Thanks,

Yes I am talking about the rear fenders, sorry about that. Several years back I did a lot of research at the Benson Ford Research center on panel trucks where I learned a lot about the panel portions of those vehicles. I bought over 850 photos showing details of the insides and outside of the trucks including some pickups, trucks and COE stuff from 39 to 41. I agree, some of the photos show the various changes in fenders due to the size of the truck but I cannot find number for the fenders in my literature.
 
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The numbers are listed in the 16000 section of the green book. I looked too in the 1944-1952 body book but nothing is shown there for rear fenders. Which I guess is understandable since they are in the green book. If you need the part numbers please say.

Interesting that you had luck doing research at the Benson Ford Research Library. I spent most of a day there going through trays of microfiche looking for exhaust routing diagrams on my 215 six cylinder M-H. Found nothing. I guess I shouldn't have expected them to have M-H data, but they didn't even have the diagrams or bend codes for a stock 2wd 215 truck. I was real disappointed. Stu
 
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Interesting thing I learned while at the Benson Ford center. James K. Wagner volunteers there one day a week, or at least did at the time of my visit. I wish he had been there that day, I'd have loved to meet him. For those who don't know the name, he is author of the book Ford Trucks Since 1905, and is in addition the Commercial Vehicle tech advisor to the EFV8 Club. Stu
 
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Originally Posted by truckdog62563
The numbers are listed in the 16000 section of the green book. I looked too in the 1944-1952 body book but nothing is shown there for rear fenders. Which I guess is understandable since they are in the green book. If you need the part numbers please say.

Interesting that you had luck doing research at the Benson Ford Research Library. I spent most of a day there going through trays of microfiche looking for exhaust routing diagrams on my 215 six cylinder M-H. Found nothing. I guess I shouldn't have expected them to have M-H data, but they didn't even have the diagrams or bend codes for a stock 2wd 215 truck. I was real disappointed. Stu
Not to worry unless you found numbers for the later years so I could match them. My guess is that they are the same, wonder why the numbers did not sow in the later series? Need a time machine.
 
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Did I not say it clearly? There are numbers for "Commercials with Panel Body" 42-47, and for "Trucks with Panel Body" 42-47. Which model are you needing numbers for? The "Trucks with Panel Body" must be for both the 122" tonner and 134" 1.5 ton because no other panel breakdown is listed besides the DRW option. Stu
 
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Originally Posted by truckdog62563
Interesting thing I learned while at the Benson Ford center. James K. Wagner volunteers there one day a week, or at least did at the time of my visit. I wish he had been there that day, I'd have loved to meet him. For those who don't know the name, he is author of the book Ford Trucks Since 1905, and is in addition the Commercial Vehicle tech advisor to the EFV8 Club. Stu
Wagner has the same affliction as Stu and I do in regard to truck tires. In the one paragraph description accompanying each photo, he very often makes a comment on the particular tires each truck is shod with. One afternoon about 20 years ago I called him with some ford truck questions. I got his number from directory assistance. We had a nice visit and I remember telling him how we shared a great interest in tire types, brands and sizes. And as far as panel rear fenders are concerned, the tonner's are much larger than the 1/2 tons, and not just the wheel opening. I would venture to say another foot longer overall.
 
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Did I not say it clearly? There are numbers for "Commercials with Panel Body" 42-47, and for "Trucks with Panel Body" 42-47. Which model are you needing numbers for? The "Trucks with Panel Body" must be for both the 122" tonner and 134" 1.5 ton because no other panel breakdown is listed besides the DRW option. Stu
You did thanks, I would guess it would have to be the trucks with option for 42-47. I noticed some gaps in the stuff I have for that kind of thing and was just curious if the numbers/fenders for the half ton panel fenders were the same through out (38-47) and if your books sowed that but I understand now that some information from Ford did not quite translate in all of the lit. (late nights and long days at work fog the brain.
 
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