Hello all I'am a new owner of a F6 dump truck. I'm not sure how big of a job that I bought . So i'm hoping to get some encouragement from this forum. I'm converting the 6 volt to 12 volt system. I got that going good, but I have a water pump thats bad and looking for a replacement. Any one got a good source? found 1 they want $175 plus the core the problem is the core has a hole in it.
thanks

 

Welcome to the board!!
I have a lot of respect for you guys that tackle the big trucks. We have numerous big truck guys around here that can help you out when the going gets tough. Hopefully you'll figure out how to post pics. We love pics and will stat pestering you for some pretty quick.


When engine do you have in your truck? That info will help a bit on your search for a replacement. And, what part of the world are you located in?


Good luck
Bobby

 

its a flathead 6 I'm thinking it 254 I'm in Michigan

 

Welcome to FTE! We would love to see pics of your truck. What engine do you have? Someone here may be able to help you with a usable core for your water pump.
Mark

 

I found a water pump on ebay part # 8HA 8505 I have a 7HA 8505 can I make that one work? how can I post a pic?

 

Welcome. Others will be of more help on that than me. My suggestion to new owners of big trucks is to familiarize yourself with the two part wheels always fitted to these 1 ton, 1.5 ton, and 2 ton trucks such as yours. They have outer rims known as Firestone RH-5°, today called widow makers. They must be respected and ideally replaced. A Google search of those terms would be instructive. Stu

 

Welcome! Always good to see another "big truck guy" in the forum. You are not alone here.
The 226 and 254 H and M series six cylinder engines use the same coolant pump, 1948 to 1951. P/N 7HA-8501, although this may have been superseded. The XX-8505 part numbers are for the housings only according to my book.

Here's one on Ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Reman-Wa...-/182380805271

 

 

Oh, that is a good looking truck. Welcome to the madness. I can't tell for sure but so far as I can see, that outside rear dual is not a WM. Kinda hard to tell from the distance and angle.

 

I'm new to all this so not sure what the WM means?

 

Welcome to FTE, the best Ford Truck Forum on the world wide Web! Your questions about will be answered here promptly as long as you show us plenty of pictures of you truck in progress!

The WM are a Firestone rim that has been known to kill men when I tdecides to let go. Stu, our resident expert on all this be related to widow makers, will be here soon to help you.

 

I mentioned them above in my welcome. The outer left rear I agree is not a widow maker, but the left front is. The below picture showing the band like area on the concave side is the joint that can come apart. Checking all six would be wise. And a few minutes on Google reading about them will be time well spent. Stu

 

The widow maker was a horrible design. There was no way for the tire installer to see if the wheel was correctly locked in place. Just got it where it looked right, give it a little air and tap on the wheel with a hammer, watching the seam. More air, more hammer, back and forth.
I have seen them fully aired up in the cage, then roll them out and explode. Just a terrible design and should be outlawed.

With a locking ring, you can visually look at it and be absolutely 100% sure that it is in the groove and safe to air up. If the ring was bent and unsafe, you could see that and pull the wheel from service.
You just did not have that option with the widow maker.

 

Well said, all true. There was a recall effort during the 1970s led by Ralph Nader. Got all the way through the process then was defeated in 1980. Probably a lot of lobbying pressure was applied by industry. As many of them as were in service at the time I've read that it could have bankrupted the manufacturers. The good that came from the recall effort was agreement reached with the manufacturers to cease their production. Last catalogued by Kelsey Hayes in 1976, Budd and Motor Wheel in 1972. All well and good, except for guys in the old truck hobby that to this day must deal with them. Stu

 

Thanks guys for all the warnings on the wheels So what is out there to replace that wheel? I bought this truck to move some dirt around on my farm it is not ready for the road. I may work on getting it to that point but for now I'm going to give it light duty by moving dirt