Replacing Intercooler Boots On 6.0. OEM or Aftermarket?
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Replacing Intercooler Boots On 6.0. OEM or Aftermarket?
I've been getting some oil dripping from the intercooler boots and decided its time to replace them. I've decided to upgrade the plastic intercooler tube while I'm at it. Looking for suggestions.
Question is three fold
1. Should I replace the boots with OEM and get the replacement upgraded metal tube and boots from Ford?
I've read a lot about the factory boots eventually failing because of the silicone used is not impervious to oil and eventually get soaked (Like Mine Are), That being said I hate to replace a part knowing it will need to be replaced again in the future. I plan on keeping this truck.
2. I've found a lot of other aftermarket options like Sinister, Banks, Rudy's, AFE and S&B that are complete kits with tubes, clamps, boots and manifold elbow. The Rudy's kit is by far the cheapest option and prices go up from their. I don't mind spending but don't want to overkill. Any advice, real world opinions? The biggest complaint I've read with the Sinister and Rudy's is the quality of the clamps? This brings me t my last question.
3. Should I replace the boot clamps when replacing the boots? Should I use OEM or is their and aftermarket clamp that is better than OEM?
I want to repair and or replace once and do it right. I don't want to create issues for myself like having the intercooler tubes popping off while on a trip. At the same time if I can add a little bling and improve cool air flow that would be a plus as I do tow a lot.
Question is three fold
1. Should I replace the boots with OEM and get the replacement upgraded metal tube and boots from Ford?
I've read a lot about the factory boots eventually failing because of the silicone used is not impervious to oil and eventually get soaked (Like Mine Are), That being said I hate to replace a part knowing it will need to be replaced again in the future. I plan on keeping this truck.
2. I've found a lot of other aftermarket options like Sinister, Banks, Rudy's, AFE and S&B that are complete kits with tubes, clamps, boots and manifold elbow. The Rudy's kit is by far the cheapest option and prices go up from their. I don't mind spending but don't want to overkill. Any advice, real world opinions? The biggest complaint I've read with the Sinister and Rudy's is the quality of the clamps? This brings me t my last question.
3. Should I replace the boot clamps when replacing the boots? Should I use OEM or is their and aftermarket clamp that is better than OEM?
I want to repair and or replace once and do it right. I don't want to create issues for myself like having the intercooler tubes popping off while on a trip. At the same time if I can add a little bling and improve cool air flow that would be a plus as I do tow a lot.
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I have the Riffraff boots and clamps. I have had good experience out of them to date. I only blew off the bottom hot side boot one time, and I believe I just didn't tighten it enough, as it happened on the first real boosted run after some work to try to improve turbo-to-pipe boot alignment. I've had them for a year and probably 8k miles.
I don't know if it's a boot issue or not, but I've been unable to achieve a top boot alignment to the intercooler pipe I'm satisfied with. No matter what I've tried to date, I cannot get the intercooler pipe to enter the top boot square. I've rotated the top boot to achieve the best squareness with the pipe, so I've called it good. I have not had an issue with that connection.
One thing I did find is that (due to lack of attention) my first top boot install on the turbo elbow resulted in a clamping force along the raised diameter of the elbow. I've since repositioned the clamp (which is about 3/4" wide) so that the full width of the clamp sits on the turbo side of this raised lip. IIRC, the edge of the clamp lines up with the edge of the boot. I don't feel oily residue on the bottom side of the turbo elbow, although I still have an oil leak somewhere in the valley I'm chasing. I believe that is another matter.
I still have the plastic cold air side tube so I can't comment there.
I don't know if it's a boot issue or not, but I've been unable to achieve a top boot alignment to the intercooler pipe I'm satisfied with. No matter what I've tried to date, I cannot get the intercooler pipe to enter the top boot square. I've rotated the top boot to achieve the best squareness with the pipe, so I've called it good. I have not had an issue with that connection.
One thing I did find is that (due to lack of attention) my first top boot install on the turbo elbow resulted in a clamping force along the raised diameter of the elbow. I've since repositioned the clamp (which is about 3/4" wide) so that the full width of the clamp sits on the turbo side of this raised lip. IIRC, the edge of the clamp lines up with the edge of the boot. I don't feel oily residue on the bottom side of the turbo elbow, although I still have an oil leak somewhere in the valley I'm chasing. I believe that is another matter.
I still have the plastic cold air side tube so I can't comment there.
#3
I have the Riffraff boots and clamps. I have had good experience out of them to date. I only blew off the bottom hot side boot one time, and I believe I just didn't tighten it enough, as it happened on the first real boosted run after some work to try to improve turbo-to-pipe boot alignment. I've had them for a year and probably 8k miles.
I don't know if it's a boot issue or not, but I've been unable to achieve a top boot alignment to the intercooler pipe I'm satisfied with. No matter what I've tried to date, I cannot get the intercooler pipe to enter the top boot square. I've rotated the top boot to achieve the best squareness with the pipe, so I've called it good. I have not had an issue with that connection.
One thing I did find is that (due to lack of attention) my first top boot install on the turbo elbow resulted in a clamping force along the raised diameter of the elbow. I've since repositioned the clamp (which is about 3/4" wide) so that the full width of the clamp sits on the turbo side of this raised lip. IIRC, the edge of the clamp lines up with the edge of the boot. I don't feel oily residue on the bottom side of the turbo elbow, although I still have an oil leak somewhere in the valley I'm chasing. I believe that is another matter.
I still have the plastic cold air side tube so I can't comment there.
I don't know if it's a boot issue or not, but I've been unable to achieve a top boot alignment to the intercooler pipe I'm satisfied with. No matter what I've tried to date, I cannot get the intercooler pipe to enter the top boot square. I've rotated the top boot to achieve the best squareness with the pipe, so I've called it good. I have not had an issue with that connection.
One thing I did find is that (due to lack of attention) my first top boot install on the turbo elbow resulted in a clamping force along the raised diameter of the elbow. I've since repositioned the clamp (which is about 3/4" wide) so that the full width of the clamp sits on the turbo side of this raised lip. IIRC, the edge of the clamp lines up with the edge of the boot. I don't feel oily residue on the bottom side of the turbo elbow, although I still have an oil leak somewhere in the valley I'm chasing. I believe that is another matter.
I still have the plastic cold air side tube so I can't comment there.
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If they are good, then no. The clamps they sell are wider, better holding. I clean mine with brake cleaner, boot and tube. Then apply hairspray and put them back together, seems to prevent blow-offs pretty well.
Oil is coming from the CCV, won't hurt the motor, does kill boots. You could even put two clamps in each place.
Oil is coming from the CCV, won't hurt the motor, does kill boots. You could even put two clamps in each place.
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If they are good, then no. The clamps they sell are wider, better holding. I clean mine with brake cleaner, boot and tube. Then apply hairspray and put them back together, seems to prevent blow-offs pretty well.
Oil is coming from the CCV, won't hurt the motor, does kill boots. You could even put two clamps in each place.
Oil is coming from the CCV, won't hurt the motor, does kill boots. You could even put two clamps in each place.
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#8
I recently had a boot crack so I went ahead and ordered the sinister kit, new boots and pipes, and haven't had an issue yet. Building 30lbs of boost and no pop offs or anything....
plus I liked the way it looked with the color matching my coolant filter hoses, even though it didn't match the hose I used for a coolant pressure gauge...oh well
Heres my cracked boot
heres the new kit
plus I liked the way it looked with the color matching my coolant filter hoses, even though it didn't match the hose I used for a coolant pressure gauge...oh well
Heres my cracked boot
heres the new kit
#10
I do like the looks of the Sinister kit but I'm leaning towards the hot side Riffraff boots and OEM metal cold side pipe. I've decided to think it over a bit and wait for more opinions to base my decision on. By the time I get the OEM tube and new Riffraff boots its nearly twice the cost of the Sinister or Rudy's kit so I don't want to jump into it. Thanks for the responses
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#12
Yes the factory boots are pretty flimsy for sure! If you do t mind me asking how much was the Mishimito kit?
#13
Right now it's on Amazon for $60 less starting price than I paid so I expect you'd be around $340 today. EDIT: And it's a friggin amazon prime item now so no shipping if you've got prime. sonofabitch!! lol.
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I found an OEM metal tube at the junkyard for $37 otd. When I buy my boots and clamps, they will be Riff Raff. They are a sponsor here and have great customer service and a top quality product. Which is not what I've heard about a couple of the options listed previously.
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