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Time for a HPOP....Need Advice

The Excursion is only pushing 2900-3100 psi of oil pressure on a full throttle test at full temp after 30 minutes at temp. IPR at hot idle bounces between 22.1 and 25%. The numbers aren't super consistent though. If the engine has been at temp for 15 minutes the numbers check as good if not a touch low. I'm assuming the hpop is the culprit and am planning on an adrenaline.

Am I correct in my assumptions?

What pump is the best with stock pressure demands?

Thanks for any assistance, it is much appreciated!
 
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Maybe but not necessarily.

I'd get an air test fitting that replaces the IPR sensor and then air test the system. AFAIK a failed pump will result in gurgling back through the air filter and/or turbo feed so you want to pull the turbo feed line out and remove the oil filter cap so you can listen for those.
 
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Are you tuned?
 
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Are you tuned?

Typical I am but these numbers are all from stock.




 
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I'd say that looking at the numbers, your on the money. IPR @2500RPM should be 40%, your at + 41%, should be 40%.

Do injector seals and nipple cups as well when you gut it!
 
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Typical I am but these numbers are all from stock.




What are your ICPV's at KOEO? Should be .18 to .25
 
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Showing at .21vdc. Note the ICP or "HPOP" showing pressure not running is, I believe, from using the newer style ICP on the old engine.
 
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I'd say that looking at the numbers, your on the money. IPR @2500RPM should be 40%, your at + 41%, should be 40%.

Do injector seals and nipple cups as well when you gut it!


Passenger side were done about a year ago along with new injectors on that side. Will be doing the driver's side with the remaining injector kits I have.

Thanks for the recommendation!
 
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Originally Posted by seijirou
Maybe but not necessarily.

I'd get an air test fitting that replaces the IPR sensor and then air test the system. AFAIK a failed pump will result in gurgling back through the air filter and/or turbo feed so you want to pull the turbo feed line out and remove the oil filter cap so you can listen for those.


Sounds good, I appreciate the info!
 
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These are from this evening just home from work and have ICPV in them.
 
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800psi is = 1.0v so you have 1.7x800=1360psi. It's calling for 1407 HPOP.

That says you either have a leak or a pump not able to give it... it's a little short. And by your numbers, 2.1% above what it should be.
 
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And looking again, highest was 3.0 =2400psi.
So if that's an untuned number, stock pump and that was it.. you either have a big leak or its dying.
 
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And looking again, highest was 3.0 =2400psi.
So if that's an untuned number, stock pump and that was it.. you either have a big leak or its dying.

Wouldn't the 3.0 ICPV correlate with the 2676 psi though? I'm trying to learn as much as I can so please bear with me!
 
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800psi is 1.0v
5.0v= 4000psi
3.0 x 800 = 2400

It shows 3.0v as the highest it recorded.
Sure... if 2676psi was maxed.... it's short of 4000psi. Why I asked if it was tuned. Tuning hides ICPV and isn't the true psi.
 
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below is the Ford data for the old ICP sensor/engine:

Voltage....PSI
0.2.........0
0.4.........200
0.73.......400
0.96.......600
1.2.........800
1.4........1000
1.6........1200
1.9........1400
2.1........1600
2.3........1800
2.6........2000
2.8........2200
3.0........2400
3.3........2600
3.5........2800
3.8........3000
5.0........4045
 


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