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Old 01-18-2017, 10:53 AM
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I've been thinking of something lately. It is probably completely false but who knows.

What do you guys think about ford changing the calibration so the tank cannot get run low because of the hpfp failures they saw in the 11-16 models.

Many people claimed that when they failed they had no water in the fuel at all. Maybe the tank was run low and the pump sucked just a fraction of air which caused it to grenade?
 
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Old 01-18-2017, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by landscapeguy
I've been thinking of something lately. It is probably completely false but who knows.

What do you guys think about ford changing the calibration so the tank cannot get run low because of the hpfp failures they saw in the 11-16 models.

Many people claimed that when they failed they had no water in the fuel at all. Maybe the tank was run low and the pump sucked just a fraction of air which caused it to grenade?

the 48 gallon long bed tanks are pretty darned accurate with the DTE
 
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Old 01-18-2017, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by landscapeguy
I've been thinking of something lately. It is probably completely false but who knows.

What do you guys think about ford changing the calibration so the tank cannot get run low because of the hpfp failures they saw in the 11-16 models.

Many people claimed that when they failed they had no water in the fuel at all. Maybe the tank was run low and the pump sucked just a fraction of air which caused it to grenade?
I don't think the pump sucking air is going to cause it to immediately fail. Trucks do run out of fuel. Sometimes the fuel in the lines freezes and can't flow.

Pump failures were less common (unheard of?) starting in 2015. The pump pistons were coated with a special anti-friction material which helped provide lube when diesel did not.
 
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Old 01-18-2017, 11:27 AM
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I decided to test mine as well. Drove it until the gauge said 0 miles until empty went and filled it up. the truck only took 28.4 gallons. how in the hell can it show empty when I still have close to 6 gallons of diesel left. either the gauge is jacked up or the tanks are not a big as ford claims
Well the easiest way to confirm is toss a 5 gallon fuel jug in the bed and drive the truck till it stops running. Use a little of the diesel from the jug to get you to a fuel station and fill up.
 
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Still no fix from Ford on this?
 
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Every time the fuel filters are changed the HPFP has to be cycled several times until it bleeds air out of the system. Instructions say to cycle the key 6 times. You can hear lots-o-air being pushed through the lines until there is none. I seriously doubt that running out of fuel is any worse than purging air after a fuel filter change.

Edit: Ignore this. HPFP only turns when engine is on. Read Troverman's next comment below.
 
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Originally Posted by EpicCowlick
Every time the fuel filters are changed the HPFP has to be cycled several times until it bleeds air out of the system. Instructions say to cycle the key 6 times. You can hear lots-o-air being pushed through the lines until there is none. I seriously doubt that running out of fuel is any worse than purging air after a fuel filter change.
Whoa, whoa, you are not cycling the HPFP...just the electric lift pump in the DFCM or tank, I believe, as of 2017. The HPFP is only operational when the engine is running.
 
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Old 01-18-2017, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by troverman
Whoa, whoa, you are not cycling the HPFP...just the electric lift pump in the DFCM or tank, I believe, as of 2017. The HPFP is only operational when the engine is running.
You are absolutely right. I officially regret my previous comment.
 
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Originally Posted by 225nontypical
I decided to test mine as well. Drove it until the gauge said 0 miles until empty went and filled it up. the truck only took 28.4 gallons...
I did the same thing with the same outcome. I drove it until 0 miles until empty, then 10 miles further. The tank took 29 gallons (compared to the 34 gallons of stated capacity).
 
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HoosierTom: i see you have a f250, what is the axle ratio, bed & cab?
thanx in advance
 

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You are absolutely right. I officially regret my previous comment.
Its all good. Had me worried for a second I was supposed to be cranking the engine during bleeding, lol.
 
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Originally Posted by vitacura
Wow! Reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Kramer goes on a test drive.
Hah!! That is a good one...



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Does anyone know if Ford is even thinking about this issue? Had my first tank down to 50mi. to go,fill up took 25 gal.
 
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Originally Posted by Hammered29
Does anyone know if Ford is even thinking about this issue? Had my first tank down to 50mi. to go,fill up took 25 gal.
I very seriously doubt it. To them it's probably a non-issue.

My last truck had a 34 gal tank as well, and the most I ever put in it was a hair over 31 gal, and that's with going well beyond the 0 miles DTE as I was out in the boonies and had to nurse along until I found a station. So, I don't really think the experiences here with the new 2017 is that far out of the ordinary. YMMV.
 
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Originally Posted by Hammered29
Does anyone know if Ford is even thinking about this issue? Had my first tank down to 50mi. to go,fill up took 25 gal.
I find this totally unacceptable on an $80,000 vehicle. The tank on the short bed is already too small, then to get short sheeted by Ford without a fix isn't funny at all.
Come on...Wakie Wakie FORD!
 


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