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Old 12-02-2016, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Karl4Cat
TST TPMS is just as easy and less intrusive. If OEM, you'll have to play with it with Forscan to lower it when you're done towing for the season. If not you can't lower your pressure for a better ride. If I had a choice, I'd rather no OEM TPMS.
Good to know. I'd like the job #2 USB ports on the back of the console, but that isn't a big deal. I also don't like not knowing what else I'd be missing without job #2. An updated order guide would be nice.
 
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Ah, interesting and disappointing!. I ordered this feature, but no one said a word. Of course, silly me, why would expect that anyone would?
 
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It is strange that my truck will be able to monitor the trailer tires, but not its own.

It would be nice if the TPMS receivers were mounted on the F450s in anticipation of the tire transmitters getting worked out soon. I doubt it though.
 
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You will both need to pardon my ignorance. I don't know what job #2 means.
The job number refers to the manufacturing run. My 2011 is a job 2 of that model year. A job 1 would have been the very first run. After each job, or run, there are incremental changes done to the assembly, parts, suppliers, etc etc that don't constitute a "model year change". There are many on-going changes that don't get reflected in advertising and model years, though obviously with a model year change you would expect some "changes".

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It's not the triaxle that helps me for example. It's the axle placement which happens to be rather forward on my rig. As I said in my earlier post, there are other brands of RV with the identical floorplan that have a pin 1k heavier than mine... I still am amazed though that our 2017 SRW 350 will be under all ratings with our 20k+ monster...LOL.
How can you be under the ratings on an SRW truck with a 20,000lb trailer? If your pin is 3,000lbs, which is in reality more than likely going to over load the rear end (fully loaded truck ready to go with fuel and the family, don't forget the hitch), you are just at 15% pin weight. If you redistribute the weight in the trailer so your rear end is within its limits you are running a light pin and run the risk of the trailer wagging the truck. If you drop the pin weight more so your GVWR is within spec you have an even lighter pin.

With my CCLB 2011 SRW if I pull a 16,000lb 5th wheel I am over GCWR before I even have the truck loaded up. How does 4,000lbs more not put you over that?
 
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So do we know if TPMS is shipping on F350 DRW? If so, I don't understand what would be the difference. Of course, different wheels, but that shouldn't impact the TPMS functionality I would think.
 
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Old 12-02-2016, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 2009kr
It is strange that my truck will be able to monitor the trailer tires, but not its own.

It would be nice if the TPMS receivers were mounted on the F450s in anticipation of the tire transmitters getting worked out soon. I doubt it though.

I also wouldn't buy the OEM trailer TPMS. It's a sloppy hard wired configuration that has been bested before it was even released by superior wireless systems like the TST. Just like the trailer back up cam. Antiquated before release by wireless systems that have been on the market for years. It's sad that folks are inclined to buy a system, just because it's tied into the OEM NAV screen and info center that is sub par to what's already available in the aftermarket.
 
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Holy cow. You guys type fast. Between when I saw STOF-FORD's post on the jobs and my post there are at least 7 posts. I guess its time for bed.
 
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How can you be under the ratings on an SRW truck with a 20,000lb trailer? If your pin is 3,000lbs, which is in reality more than likely going to over load the rear end (fully loaded truck ready to go with fuel and the family, don't forget the hitch), you are just at 15% pin weight. If you redistribute the weight in the trailer so your rear end is within its limits you are running a light pin and run the risk of the trailer wagging the truck. If you drop the pin weight more so your GVWR is within spec you have an even lighter pin.

With my CCLB 2011 SRW if I pull a 16,000lb 5th wheel I am over GCWR before I even have the truck loaded up. How does 4,000lbs more not put you over that?
Easily. My pin as stated earlier in the thread is around 2500-2600 depending on how my garage is loaded. I posted my weight ticket as well. I'm already under my GAWR, GVWR, and tire ratings on my 2012. I'll be under the 17's GCWR of 28,700 as well. No wagging the truck either. Tows like an arrow for over 20k miles so far all over the US and up to Canada...

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So do we know if TPMS is shipping on F350 DRW? If so, I don't understand what would be the difference. Of course, different wheels, but that shouldn't impact the TPMS functionality I would think.
Yes, the DRW 350 has TPMS for 17.
 
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Originally Posted by Karl4Cat
There is no TPMS for 450's to date. He's hoping it will be available soon. I would hope not if I was him.
I figured with the oem system, it would always run without any attention from me. With an aftermarket system, wouldn't it need to turn it on every time, tell it when I hook and unhook my trailer each time, and have another device in view?
 
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I guess. I wouldn't worry about it when I'm not towing so I wouldn't even turn it on if there was no RV behind me. Kind of like all the years before vehicles had TPMS.
 
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Hey beast, i too live in California, for a few more years anyway. Just fyi, if you dont know yet, you are lookin at about $1100-1300 a year for registration on a F350.
 
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It's actually based on if you register it as auto or commercial anywhere from 600-900 also the price paid so better price better reg fees. I'm about it , you have to pay to play .
 
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Originally Posted by Karl4Cat
Anything ordered now will likely be job 2 no? Ordering the 3rd week in Jan...
I just speced out a f450 with my dealer, and the sheet says job#1. I'm surprised in December nobody knows the job #2 date or differences.
 
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I don't think I'm over any weight ratings. I have the 10K package from Ford. I have air bags. I'm fully deleted so truck doesn't even know this 18K-20K is even back there. If you are not paying attention you will be at 70-75 hauling this weight. It's just amazing how these trucks pull.
I think you are beyond your GVWR and possible your RAWR. With the 80 gallon tank you added, you are adding 80*7.5=600# of weight to the bed of the truck. If you have super light pin on your 20K trailer, say 12%, it would weigh 2400#. Even if you assume only 400# for the driver, passengers, cargo, hitch, etc., you have 600+2400+400=3400# on the truck. Your truck weighs around 8300#. That gives you a GVW of 3400+8300=11,700. If your truck wasn't derated to 10,000#, you'd be 200# over. On paper, you are 1700# over.
 


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