1987 factory splice job...wth... And conduit issues.
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1987 factory splice job...wth... And conduit issues.
My '87 has many splices throughout its harness's and not one is actually protected anymore. Cloth tape doesn't last 30 years and still work.
In '87 it appears they just used cloth tape to cover them because its cheap and fast.
However, In '88 untill now they use some kind of epoxy and heatshrink which works way better and still holding strong.
Also in '87, they used non-weatherproof connectors from engine harness to chassis which also, Did not work nor last but again in '88 went to the right style plugs.
Later today I'm going to the JY that has an '88 which still has ALL its plugs and is also a diesel.
What I did with the harness plugs was cut them off and just solder the wires directly together and used heatshrink....That didn't shrink fully on the ends and to pull one harness means EVERYTHING has to come out which is now a pain. I already did it..... Which worked in my favor actually.
My question is, Should I get the right plugs and use them or just leave it as is and get better heatshrink and how do I actually insulate and protect these splices? I'm not going to try and cut apart 6-8 wires and resolder...No. I can already tell it won't work well.
But, When I heated the splices up with a small torch to flow solder into it, Nothing. Just got real hot but solder cannot flow onto or into the connection.
Lastly, How can I best run new conduit? Factory has done it multiple ways and seems fine but I've had some tell me to leave the wires open, Don't wrap the conduit or wires in tape, Etc... But Ford did both and the wires seem to be fine from what I can tell. Reason for asking is, I'm trying to make this truck...Basically able to swim to a certain point. Crazy as it sounds, There is a methodology to the insanity.
In '87 it appears they just used cloth tape to cover them because its cheap and fast.
However, In '88 untill now they use some kind of epoxy and heatshrink which works way better and still holding strong.
Also in '87, they used non-weatherproof connectors from engine harness to chassis which also, Did not work nor last but again in '88 went to the right style plugs.
Later today I'm going to the JY that has an '88 which still has ALL its plugs and is also a diesel.
What I did with the harness plugs was cut them off and just solder the wires directly together and used heatshrink....That didn't shrink fully on the ends and to pull one harness means EVERYTHING has to come out which is now a pain. I already did it..... Which worked in my favor actually.
My question is, Should I get the right plugs and use them or just leave it as is and get better heatshrink and how do I actually insulate and protect these splices? I'm not going to try and cut apart 6-8 wires and resolder...No. I can already tell it won't work well.
But, When I heated the splices up with a small torch to flow solder into it, Nothing. Just got real hot but solder cannot flow onto or into the connection.
Lastly, How can I best run new conduit? Factory has done it multiple ways and seems fine but I've had some tell me to leave the wires open, Don't wrap the conduit or wires in tape, Etc... But Ford did both and the wires seem to be fine from what I can tell. Reason for asking is, I'm trying to make this truck...Basically able to swim to a certain point. Crazy as it sounds, There is a methodology to the insanity.
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The only suggestion I have is to use liquid electrical tape on the splices, and for the heat shrink you can't beat the heat shrink with the glue in the middle. It's what they use for well pumps where the splice is under water in the well. You can go to a plumbing supply and get it, but it would be expensive. You would be best to get it online. Here's a place that carries it, you can look around and see if you can get a better price.
Here is one size they sell. In the search box put in "adhesive shrink tubing", they sell other sizes and they may have a assortment kit, I did not look hard enough.
SPC Technology Adhesive Lined Heat Shrink Tubing 4:1 Ratio - 5/32" x 4' | 24M2739 | SPC Technology
The local car part stores and Lowe's sell the liquid elec tape.
Here is one size they sell. In the search box put in "adhesive shrink tubing", they sell other sizes and they may have a assortment kit, I did not look hard enough.
SPC Technology Adhesive Lined Heat Shrink Tubing 4:1 Ratio - 5/32" x 4' | 24M2739 | SPC Technology
The local car part stores and Lowe's sell the liquid elec tape.
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I tried the liquid tape but it doesn't stick well. I'll check out the adhesive tubing.
Think I'll go with this. Seems to work great for the price and wish I hadn't got that other crap now....
http://www.harborfreight.com/42-piec...ing-67598.html
Think I'll go with this. Seems to work great for the price and wish I hadn't got that other crap now....
http://www.harborfreight.com/42-piec...ing-67598.html
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I tried the liquid tape but it doesn't stick well. I'll check out the adhesive tubing.
Think I'll go with this. Seems to work great for the price and wish I hadn't got that other crap now....
42 Piece Marine Heat Shrink Tubing
Think I'll go with this. Seems to work great for the price and wish I hadn't got that other crap now....
42 Piece Marine Heat Shrink Tubing
Also on the problems soldering, you will run into that with these old harnesses. If the copper is dull looking, even though it's still copper colored, the solder will not stick, no matter how much flux you use. If you get a piece of sandpaper and start to stroke the strands with it after you strip it back, it will usually stick then when you get the copper shiny again.
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I think you will really like that adhesive shrinkwrap once you use it.
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I love the adhesive type heatshrink. Really shows the connection is water tight. After looking at different trucks in boneyards, I seen Ford would wrap the wires then the conduit. So, I did the same. Hopefully it'll last another 30 years. Wires were in mint condition when I unwrapped them and cleaned them. They just used tape to hold the branches from the main harness. I did also but used liquid tape/spray on rubber and run conduit up to the connectors then filled with die-electric. But did not use rubber to cover all the conduit. Hard to explain. Haven't really started on the engine bay harness yet. Looking to start on it this weekend to next week. Only have 30 minutes of good daylight to work with after I get home from work now.
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