96 f350 2wd to 4wd TTB or 05 or newer solid front axle
#1
96 f350 2wd to 4wd TTB or 05 or newer solid front axle
I have a 96 f350 dually with a 7.3. Its 2 wheel drive and I want to swap the twin I beam to an 05 Dana 60 with coils or is it possible to go with a Dana 60 TTB and still use coils. Basically what I'm wondering is how sturdy would a TTB be on a 1 ton truck and can I still use coils or would it be better to go with a solid front axle off an 05 or newer.
#2
I have a 96 f350 dually with a 7.3. Its 2 wheel drive and I want to swap the twin I beam to an 05 Dana 60 with coils or is it possible to go with a Dana 60 TTB and still use coils. Basically what I'm wondering is how sturdy would a TTB be on a 1 ton truck and can I still use coils or would it be better to go with a solid front axle off an 05 or newer.
1. Do NOT waste your time with TTB
2. No such thing asa Dana 60 TTB
3.Just go 05+ dana 60 and 05+ dana 80(rear axle)
or
86-97 Dana 60(and ad leaf spring mounts)
#4
If you just want something to help out in snow then slap a 44 TTB under it, do the 8-lug conversion and call it done.
If you want more beef than that just get a BJ or kingpin D60 (don't pay a cent more for the KP one) from an 80-96 or a D50 from a 99-04.
If you want to wheel it or run big tires then find an '05+ SD axle.
Don't dick around with leafs. Nobody with more than air between their ears ever said the leaf sprung trucks rode and handled nicer than the coil sprung ones. You already have all the stuff for coils. Keep the coils. It's not that hard to add radius arm brackets to whatever axle you use.
If you want more beef than that just get a BJ or kingpin D60 (don't pay a cent more for the KP one) from an 80-96 or a D50 from a 99-04.
If you want to wheel it or run big tires then find an '05+ SD axle.
Don't dick around with leafs. Nobody with more than air between their ears ever said the leaf sprung trucks rode and handled nicer than the coil sprung ones. You already have all the stuff for coils. Keep the coils. It's not that hard to add radius arm brackets to whatever axle you use.
#5
There's no benefit to adding a TTB setup unless the entire assembly is free, and the person doing the work to install it isn't you, and they are also doing it for free. And even then, that's a stretch...
If you can get a solid axle, that's the best option. Leaf springs will be easier to install, but coils can be done. Either way, just plan on everything associated with the front axle's suspension needing to come off and be replaced.
If you can get a solid axle, that's the best option. Leaf springs will be easier to install, but coils can be done. Either way, just plan on everything associated with the front axle's suspension needing to come off and be replaced.
#7
You could also convert the ZF 2wd to 4wd by changing out the main shaft and extension housing for 4wd parts. Not that easy but cheaper than buying a whole transmission.
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*note: the following is not meant to sound like I'm coming across as a d!ckweed. It is just a personal opinion which you can disregard if you think it has no merit.
You are saying a mainshaft and extension housing, used not new from some place like Transmission Parts and Cores in Hayward, CA, a seal kit and maybe a bearing or two are more than a remanned transmission? I saw used mainshafts on FleaBay for $150 to $170 which seemed kinda high to me. That extension housing might be gotten when the transfer case is acquired.
I'm seeing remanned entire units less transfer case online for big $$$, as in $2,000.00 and up. The local Pick Yer Part wants quite a bit for a used unit that you really have no idea what the condition is inside. It's been a few years but seems like they were getting $500 or more for one. How much are you getting them for, if I might ask?
Maybe what in my opinion would pass as a rebuildable core from the JY might be cheaper. However, with the difficulty factor in pulling a 4wd trans if it turns out to be junk, I wouldn't put a JY trans in without taking a look first. I've taught transmissions at a trade school and I've been inside a ZF5. Difficulty rating of about 3 out of 5 wrenches. Or, 1-1/2 six packs.
Mind you, this is just my personal opinion and it is not construed to be gospel in any way, shape or form. And, just like belly buttons, we all have our own opinions and mine may not match yours. Personally, I would not just stab a JY transmission without at least resealing it after a look-see.
You are saying a mainshaft and extension housing, used not new from some place like Transmission Parts and Cores in Hayward, CA, a seal kit and maybe a bearing or two are more than a remanned transmission? I saw used mainshafts on FleaBay for $150 to $170 which seemed kinda high to me. That extension housing might be gotten when the transfer case is acquired.
I'm seeing remanned entire units less transfer case online for big $$$, as in $2,000.00 and up. The local Pick Yer Part wants quite a bit for a used unit that you really have no idea what the condition is inside. It's been a few years but seems like they were getting $500 or more for one. How much are you getting them for, if I might ask?
Maybe what in my opinion would pass as a rebuildable core from the JY might be cheaper. However, with the difficulty factor in pulling a 4wd trans if it turns out to be junk, I wouldn't put a JY trans in without taking a look first. I've taught transmissions at a trade school and I've been inside a ZF5. Difficulty rating of about 3 out of 5 wrenches. Or, 1-1/2 six packs.
Mind you, this is just my personal opinion and it is not construed to be gospel in any way, shape or form. And, just like belly buttons, we all have our own opinions and mine may not match yours. Personally, I would not just stab a JY transmission without at least resealing it after a look-see.
#11
No junkyard, pick'n'pull or otherwise will be selling more than a few transfer cases at that price. Going rate seems to be under $150 (usually right around $100) for pick'n'pull yards and definitely not more than $300 for a full service junkyard (unless you ask for something that's only a few years old or something that they don't have, in which case they find it online, tack on shipping and mark it up).
#12
#13
I just bought a 96 F250 supercab 4wd 460 5speed truck with a "bad engine" for $300
I sold the 5 speed for $500 by itself(extension housing included)
Kept...(about another $1500+ in parts)
The heads
Exhaust manifolds
A/C compressor
Intake
Plentum
Throttle body
Vinyl floor mat
Dash pad
Under column panel
T-case
A-piller trim
Steering wheel
Full grill
Stone filler panel
ECM
Engine harness
Underhood harness
Pintle Hook
Full Hydraulic clutch setup
Trans crossmember
Trans shifter and boot
4wd Shifter and Boot
And sold what was left for another $500
So just to paraphrase...
I paid 300
sold parts for $1000
and have another $1500 in parts
#15
i think a ttb would work fine works good in f250 with 460,6.9,7.3 a solid axle will need alotta lift to clear the pivot bushing crossmember
it will be alotta fab. work no matter how you look at it the best bet would be find a matching truck in 4x4 on the cheap i.e with a bad motor and just swap motors and parts
it will be alotta fab. work no matter how you look at it the best bet would be find a matching truck in 4x4 on the cheap i.e with a bad motor and just swap motors and parts