As an alternative to replacing the diesel in my '94 F250, I'm looking at the above. Slightly less than 100k, 4R100, 4x4 SC flatbed. I have a picture of the door tag, and there is no axle code listed. This was shipped as an incomplete vehicle, but that shouldn't effect the axle code being shown, right? The truck is a couple hundred miles away, so I can't just climb under it and check the diff tag. I'm looking to tow a +/- 11000 lb. enclosed gooseneck cross-country with it, then occasionally it will tow it mostly empty. I don't mind going slow up hills, and fuel economy is not a concern. I would consider going with an aux trans cooler to make it easier on the 4R100. Should it do what I want? I'd be doing a full service before making the trip. It has no spark plug issues or leaks. Anything I should be on the lookout for?

Thanks!

 

Enter the vin here. https://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleReg...78694.fcvas504

 

Thanks for the link! It has the 3.73 rear end unfortunately, which limits trailer weight to 10,700. I think the trailer will be 10-11k. Why couldn't it be the 4.30 rear?

 

No problem unfortunately 99% of the trucks are going to be 3.73. In my opinion and I'm pretty sure I'm not alone on this one but every gas superduty should have left the factory with 4.30 gears. Finding a v10 with 4.30's is going to be close to impossible. They're out there but not many of them.

 

Not sure if you'll be happy with the V-10, the 4R100 is "ok", the motor not so much........7.3L would be a better alternative provided the trans has been updated / upgraded

 

There always has to be the one guy that has to start the bashing of the V10.
Do not listen to that guy.
I would also not worry about the 3:73 gears.
For the price of and the maintenance cost of a diesel , you can certainly change gears to 4:30 .
I personally have the 5 speed manual , in my V10 with the factory 3:73 gears , and two weights in excess of 13-14k pounds.
Yes I am sometimes slower up hills than a diesel , but I still get to the top, and my fuel and maintenance is less expensive.

 

You said you'd like to tow around 11,000 lbs --- won't work with the V-10 (per Ford)--- that's why I'd go with a better engine .

Super Duty F-250-F-350 Regular Cab Pickup Fifth Wheel Towing
Maximum Trailer Weight (lbs.)
Regular Cab Pickup
F-350
4x4 DRW

6.8L (415)
SEFI V-10
3.73 10,300 lbs

PS --- don't listen to the guy who doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

Going to a 7.3 would cost another $4k up front, it would have at least another 100k miles on it (trans/axles/frame), and I don't need the power; after we get out of Wyoming there isn't another substantial climb left. I'll go as slow as I need to when climbing, and I doubt it will have any issues on the flats. My '07 F150 with 3.73s was rated to tow 9200, hard to believe a F350 6.8 would have any difficulty towing a ton more. After we get where we're going, it won't ever have to tow more than 8-9k again, and very rarely even then.

 

I see f350 1990 ,you have both the 390 and 428 , both rated from the factory at 335 horse .
Don't you find the contradiction a bit odd.
I have also owned both engines , and it is obvious that ford was not telling the wheel story then.
Do you think they have somehow become more truthful with towing capacities ?
Just saying .

 

For what it's worth, those tow ratings are not in any way a legal number. They are a recommendation. The gvwr and awr are the legal numbers and why they are stamped on the door sticker.

My truck is a 2000 f250 and all 2000 f250's came with an 8800 lb gvwr regardless of configuration. That means my regular cab gasser xl that weighs 5,400 lbs has a 3,400 lb payload and the crew cab diesel that weighs 7,700 lbs has an 1,100 lb payload. Assuming 25% tongue weight for a 5th wheel my truck can tow 13,400 lbs and that diesel can only tow 4,400 lbs regardless of what ford says or what inflated tow rating they gave the diesel so they could sell a more expensive truck.

With the truck you are looking at being a 350 it will have a 9,900 lb gvwr and probably close to 7,000 lbs actual weight. With about 2,900 lb payload you are looking at 11,600 lbs being your legal limit. You would be awfully close to that limit with that combination.

 

This is for year model 2000 f350 GCWR per Ford owners manual:



Engine
Trans Axle ratio GCWR Max loaded trailer weight Notes
5.4L V8
3.73 13500


5.4L V8
4.10 15000


6.8L V10 ZF6 3.73 16500


6.8L V10 4R100 3.73 17000


6.8L V10 all 4.30 20000


7.3L V8 all 3.73 20000

 

4x4
Super cab 8 ft
Base curb weight- 6169lb
GVWR- 9900lb


So your truck will probably weigh in at around 6500lbs =/- with gas , with trailer at 11k = 17500lbs. Then add gear and people, 500- 1000lbs+. The truck you are looking at will do the job, but legally if you are involved in an accident, you would be overweight.

 

Those weights aren't legal weights though and don't mean anything. If I remember correctly, the 250 with a 7.3 from that year had a gcwr from Ford of 20,000 lbs too. Take a fully loaded 7.3 that weighs 7,700 lbs and has an 8,800 lb gvwr and it only has a payload of 1,100 lbs. Put a 4,500 lb 5th wheel on it with 25% pin weight and that puts your gvw(actual legal number) at 8,825 lbs, or 25 lbs overweight. That is with a combined weight of only 12,200 lbs, which is well below the 20,000 lb rating from Ford.

 

On my 01 F350 CC/LB/V-10/4:30 gears.....I tow a 36 1/2 foot 5th wheel at about 19K and never have had a problem......also use an SCT tuner.

 

The truck weighs 6700 (actually weighed it yesterday) with a full tank, no driver or passengers. Throw me in there and lunch, and call it 6900. Call the trailer 11k - 25% hitch weight equals 2750, leaving 1150 pounds of total weight-carrying capacity and keeping me well below the rear axle weight rating. Ford's GCWRs have never made much sense; I am much more concerned about the (legally binding) axle weights and GVWR.