So I've gone to every parts house in my city from auto zone to oreillys and everything in between every place has my clutch master cylinder but the pushrod they come with just isn't long enough, the pushrod I originally had was 7 inches and it was adjustable, the pushrod that comes the master cylinder that the parts houses offer is not adjustable and is only 6 inches so I went to the bone yard yesterday to see if I could find anything, found a truck exactly like mine that was standard, I looked and the pushrod and knew it was shorter than my original pushrod but the pedal was sitting at correct height so I nabbed the master thinkin "ok well if this truck has the shorter rod and the clutch pedal is sitting at correct height it should work" I put it in my truck and the pedal is still low I bled it today on my lunch break, the pedal stiffened up finally and I started my truck, still won't go into gear (the slave moves when the pedal is pushed in and pulled back up) I haven't gotten to the point to where the pedal comes back up all the way on its own, so I guess my question is do I keep on bleeding which seems like it's doing nothing or do I throw in the towel take it into a shop (which I don't have the money for but at this point im ready to give up) I don't really know where to go... any body have some help

 

Thx in advance

 

i dont understand why the pushrod my truck came with is adjustable while all the replacements arent.

 

If the slave moves with the pedal, then the hydraulics are probably alright, and your problem is "downstream" - fork, throwout bearing, fork connection to throwout, pressure plate, etc.

This is a truck with an external slave, then? When you say "the slave moves", does it also move the fork?

 

the pedal not coming all the way back up on its own has me thinking "bushing(s)". have you checked the plastic bushing between the push rod end and the actuating arm on the end of the pedal mechanism ?

 

Yes I have checked it, it's there and it's an internal slave cylinder which has been been replaced, how ever like I said I just can't find a pushrod that's either adjustable or the right length my pushrod measured 7 inches each pushrod I find is only 6 inches so I called the stealership today and I'm gonna have to fork out 30$ for just the pushrod that's if its even correct.. if not looks like its time to make do with the old one

 

It sounds like someone put a 87 and earlier master on your truck, those had the adjustable push rods.

The other option is to remove the arm on the pedal box assembly where the rod hooks up and re-index it to the proper position.

 

Adjustable pushrod - RockAuto .

So with an internal slave, how do you know that the slave is moving?

 

Because I took off the flywheel inspection cover and had a buddy operate the clutch pedal and the slave cylinder moves back and forth however there's not very much movement

 

Alrighty then well thank you madpogue&ifrythings so now the question is that if I gotta push rod from an 87 does that mean my master cylinder would have been the same or I don't know that's just kind of confusing I mean I guess maybe I just had an 87 push rod and a 95 master cylinder or does that mean I should get a master cylinder for an 87 right now I'm currently using a master cylinder from a junkyard out of a 94 or 95 it's the same body style as mine I can't quite remember what year it is though

 

I'm not familiar with the trannies for the gassers, but when you remove the flywheel cover and watch, can you see whether the slave is actually moving the fork? Or any part of the throwout / pressure plate? On my diesels (two ZF5s and a T19), you can also remove the shifter boot inside the cab and see a bit of the pressure plate through an opening in the top of the case / bellhousing. If the slave is moving at all, then the pressure plate should be moving. It's the spring tension of the pressure plate fingers that pushes back on the slave, thus pushing fluid back hydraulically into the master and returning the pedal. Even if there's only partial movement of the slave, that spring action should push the pedal back up. Make sure that's all happening. If it's not, then the slave might not be moving the fork properly, or the fork may be out of position, or something along those lines.

You may have more than one problem - either a hydraulic issue or pedal/pushrod issue causing incomplete hydraulic movement, plus a "downstream" fork / pressure plate issue causing the pedal not to return.

'94 and '95 are a different body style from yours; two generations later. I'm presently running a complete '95-style master-line-slave assembly (diesel trannies have external slaves) on my '85 IDI, but I'm also running the adjustable pushrod linked above (it's about $10 with the shipping). So an adjustable pushrod should work with the master you have. Also don't forget the above-mentioned option of removing the arm from the pedal shaft and "re-clocking" it to a more favorable position.

 

thank you mad pogue, i actually own a 1995 f150, how ever i should have mentioned the truck in question is my 1995 sig truck the whole reason behind my user name is 85F350IDI because i was convinced i was i was gonna get the 85f350 and i didnt but anyways, thanks yall for helpin i nobody else has to go through this lmao now im just curious as to what else isnt 1995 era lolz,
Goodnight yall.