Anyone else feel like they're getting ripped-off at the pump?
#1
Anyone else feel like they're getting ripped-off at the pump?
Maybe it's a Texas thing, or a Fort Worth thing, but my last 4 fill-ups have required 3-4 gallons more than I thought they should have based on miles traveled, fuel gauge position, timing of low fuel light, and calculated mpg.
I was getting 14.5 mpg mixed city driving and then all of a sudden it dropped to 12.5mpg. I started thinking something was wrong with the sending unit, so I ran it almost dry to see if I still had 5 gallons when the low fuel light came on like it did four months ago after I harpooned the tank. Yesterday I went 50 miles after the light came on which tells me I still had a gallon in the tank if the sender is still working properly.
Today I filled the tank and it took 34.812 gallons. Did I mention I have a short bed with 29 gallon tank? But wait, it gets better.
Fuel price was $1.999. I paid $80 cash. When I finished filling the truck, I had a five gallon can to fill. The remaining 5.188 gallons didn't fill the can. At $80 the pump stopped and the level in the can is at least an inch below the 5gal mark. And it isn't an old can with bulged-out sides either.
Last four fill-ups were at three different gas stations, btw.
I was getting 14.5 mpg mixed city driving and then all of a sudden it dropped to 12.5mpg. I started thinking something was wrong with the sending unit, so I ran it almost dry to see if I still had 5 gallons when the low fuel light came on like it did four months ago after I harpooned the tank. Yesterday I went 50 miles after the light came on which tells me I still had a gallon in the tank if the sender is still working properly.
Today I filled the tank and it took 34.812 gallons. Did I mention I have a short bed with 29 gallon tank? But wait, it gets better.
Fuel price was $1.999. I paid $80 cash. When I finished filling the truck, I had a five gallon can to fill. The remaining 5.188 gallons didn't fill the can. At $80 the pump stopped and the level in the can is at least an inch below the 5gal mark. And it isn't an old can with bulged-out sides either.
Last four fill-ups were at three different gas stations, btw.
#3
Maybe it's a Texas thing, or a Fort Worth thing, but my last 4 fill-ups have required 3-4 gallons more than I thought they should have based on miles traveled, fuel gauge position, timing of low fuel light, and calculated mpg.
I was getting 14.5 mpg mixed city driving and then all of a sudden it dropped to 12.5mpg. I started thinking something was wrong with the sending unit, so I ran it almost dry to see if I still had 5 gallons when the low fuel light came on like it did four months ago after I harpooned the tank. Yesterday I went 50 miles after the light came on which tells me I still had a gallon in the tank if the sender is still working properly.
Today I filled the tank and it took 34.812 gallons. Did I mention I have a short bed with 29 gallon tank? But wait, it gets better.
Fuel price was $1.999. I paid $80 cash. When I finished filling the truck, I had a five gallon can to fill. The remaining 5.188 gallons didn't fill the can. At $80 the pump stopped and the level in the can is at least an inch below the 5gal mark. And it isn't an old can with bulged-out sides either.
Last four fill-ups were at three different gas stations, btw.
I was getting 14.5 mpg mixed city driving and then all of a sudden it dropped to 12.5mpg. I started thinking something was wrong with the sending unit, so I ran it almost dry to see if I still had 5 gallons when the low fuel light came on like it did four months ago after I harpooned the tank. Yesterday I went 50 miles after the light came on which tells me I still had a gallon in the tank if the sender is still working properly.
Today I filled the tank and it took 34.812 gallons. Did I mention I have a short bed with 29 gallon tank? But wait, it gets better.
Fuel price was $1.999. I paid $80 cash. When I finished filling the truck, I had a five gallon can to fill. The remaining 5.188 gallons didn't fill the can. At $80 the pump stopped and the level in the can is at least an inch below the 5gal mark. And it isn't an old can with bulged-out sides either.
Last four fill-ups were at three different gas stations, btw.
Have a look at that link I just posted and look at these these reports
Device Inspection History Current Fiscal Year (csv) Weights & Measures Reports
Device Inspection History Previous Fiscal Year Weights & Measures Reports
Fuel Stations Out of Compliance Report Weights & Measures Reports
It's all overseen by Texas Department of Agriculture
Sean <BR>
6.0L Tech Folder
#4
I don't know about Texas, but I remember reading here in Iowa there's only one guy to do the actual inspections or somesuch. The sticker is kind of misleading. It's not like the pumps are checked out every six months or something. It's probably done on a percentage basis or something like that. If there are complaints that would be different.
#5
You might start by looking up the station in question to see if they have problems
with shortages. Then you may want to contact someone in the department.
https://www.texasagriculture.gov/Reg...sContacts.aspx
Here is the contact page for Agriculture. They are the ones that regulate it.
Sean <BR>
6.0L Tech Folder
with shortages. Then you may want to contact someone in the department.
https://www.texasagriculture.gov/Reg...sContacts.aspx
Here is the contact page for Agriculture. They are the ones that regulate it.
Sean <BR>
6.0L Tech Folder
#6
Every state has an Attorney General and a website with a complaint system. Here in Wa State, several years ago, I complained about a local business doing robo-calls and leaving recorded messages on my answering machine. (illegal in Wa State)
I filed an online complaint and they answered me with a response in a week or so and about 6mo later I had an apology from the company that originally did the call!
That was a pretty minor thing. Fraud at a gas-pump is a VERY MAJOR thing.
I'll bet any State Attorney Gen would jump right on that!!
I filed an online complaint and they answered me with a response in a week or so and about 6mo later I had an apology from the company that originally did the call!
That was a pretty minor thing. Fraud at a gas-pump is a VERY MAJOR thing.
I'll bet any State Attorney Gen would jump right on that!!
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#8
Could be the local technician that is making a mistake in
the calibrations in the pump meter.
Either way it needs to be rectified and reporting it may be the
only way to get that issue corrected.
Sean <BR>
6.0L Tech Folder
the calibrations in the pump meter.
Either way it needs to be rectified and reporting it may be the
only way to get that issue corrected.
Sean <BR>
6.0L Tech Folder
#9
Wow, have you looked at those device inspection history spread sheets?!!! 29K rows of Excel wonderment! And some of the entries are duplicates. After going through 17,000 entries, I only found one of the gas stations in question, and then my eyes popped out.
I filed a complaint about the most recent experience, and referenced the other two in the description. It sure was an easy process, at least I think it was. Still waiting on some form of confirmation that they received it. Probably get that next month.
I filed a complaint about the most recent experience, and referenced the other two in the description. It sure was an easy process, at least I think it was. Still waiting on some form of confirmation that they received it. Probably get that next month.
#10
A database is your friend and worst enemy.
All depending on how you work it.
Other time is just shows incompetence in the worst way.
Sean <BR>
6.0L Tech Folder
All depending on how you work it.
Other time is just shows incompetence in the worst way.
Sean <BR>
6.0L Tech Folder
#11
As a teenager I pumped gas for a paycheck. We would "stick" the tanks every day. Just like it sounds it's a measuring stick that gives you a close approximation of how much fuel is in the big tank in the ground and the pumps were read (total sale in gallons) for the day. If the pump at the business you mentioned is that far off, you can bet they know it.
#13
#14
I would bet they ALL know it. The way I view the oil industry is pretty much like organized crime.
The last time a barrel of oil was $40 was December 2008. Price at the pump for 87 octane was $1.09 in Arlington, TX. These days a $40 barrel of oil equals $1.70 at the pump.
The last time a barrel of oil was $40 was December 2008. Price at the pump for 87 octane was $1.09 in Arlington, TX. These days a $40 barrel of oil equals $1.70 at the pump.
WTH?!!!!! Am I defending the oil industry? Blood sucking scumbags!
#15
I was gonna say, wait till he finds out about fuel taxes. And our oil industry hasn't been nationalized like the rest of the world. To wit:
Look at Venezuela. They have the largest proven oil reserves on the planet, and yet the people are slaughtering stray dogs, cats, and zoo animals in the street to get food to eat, and they stand in mile long lines to (maybe ... hopefully..) buy toilet paper.
Look at Venezuela. They have the largest proven oil reserves on the planet, and yet the people are slaughtering stray dogs, cats, and zoo animals in the street to get food to eat, and they stand in mile long lines to (maybe ... hopefully..) buy toilet paper.