Thankfully in Alaska they don't really have any other restrictions other than the federal DOT ones. GVWR doesn't matter here until the total weight of the truck and trailer exceed 26,000. No special registration or licenses for an 11.5K vs 10K. I can't believe how communist the lower 48 is becoming.

 

Every law we ever needed has been written since forever. Why oh why don't people understand this? Why don't people understand that our government is really just administration of social programs, defense funding, and entertainment for foreign leaders?

****please don't answer, rasalas got me going******

 

Reading from the current TxDMV Schedule of Texas Registration Fees, it seems that the GVW is based on your statement at the time of registration and not from the factory sticker. Am I reading this wrong? I ask because I too will be registering a new 2017 F350 in Texas.

FWIW, It appears that Arizona has similar registration standard for commercial vehicles.

TRAILERS / TRAVEL TRAILERS
6,000 lbs. and less = $45.00
The annual registration fee for a trailer or travel trailer (if the trailer requires registration) with a gross vehicle weight of 6,000 lbs. or less is $45.00, plus applicable fees and local county fees.
ALL VEHICLES
6,001 lbs. – 10,000 lbs. = $54.00
The annual registration fee for a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight of 6,001 lbs. – 10,000 lbs. is $54.00, plus applicable fees and local county fees.
Note: The gross vehicle weight of a truck is determined by adding the empty weight of the vehicle and the heaviest load that will be carried by the vehicle (carrying capacity) during the registration year.
WEIGHT BASED REGISTRATION FEES
Vehicles 10,001 lbs. or more will pay the following registration fee*, plus applicable and local county fees 10,001-18,000 lbs.

18,001-25,999 lbs.
$205.00

26,000-40,000 lbs.
$340.00

40,001-54,999 lbs.
$535.00

55,000-70,000 lbs.
$740.00

70,001-80,000 lbs.
$840.00

Over 80,000 lbs.
Varies

 

Thanks for the reply. I have read that but don't know if anyone has actually tried to register a truck or trailer that way or not.

 

Sport outlines what I said earlier. Dot doesn't care what the door sticker says, you register your tag for the maximum weight you know you will exist at. In theory, you could register (pay tax) a Tacoma for 26,000lbs and they wouldn't even take notice. It's just about the road tax assessment.

 

Just a bit of history. Gov Nelson Rockefeller of NY ran on a ticket to not raise taxes back in the '50s. His first order of business was to change wording that would make registrations fees and not taxes, and then promptly raise them all. Why won't gov'ts call them what they are. A tax on ownership....it has to be paid whether you drive 1 mile or 100K miles per year.

 

[QUOTE=Frantz;16451556]Generally a trailer under 10k will keep you out of trouble. Guys who run commercially commonly run an F250 of derated 350 and 10k trailer to avoid med cards and the like. If you can genuinely claim it's for personal use (call it a hobby farm) then you generally fall under different requirements that are less demanding.[/QUOTE

I finally gave in last year and got my CDL. Iowa DOT has been getting nastier with dualies and longer horse trailers. Likewise hard to keep track of other states' laws. What a mess of regulations. No wonder hard to be a small business owner. Dumb **** politicians feel like they are failures unless they pass new laws each session.

 

How many times have you been pulled over and weighed in a pick up? I've always ordered my SRW 350's with 10k or 9900 lb ratings to stay below that magical number. (I've got a trailer with tandem 8k axles too)

 

For most users, not often. But then again I have seen a whole line of pick ups and trailers pulled into impromptu DOT stops, usually carnivals on the move. The biggest worry about being scaled is ensuring your vehicle is within the state laws for allowable weight and axle spread and bridge. As has been stated most officers will not care what the truck is rated for but rather violation of the vehicle and traffic weight laws. BUT, catch a savvy officer who recognizes compliance and you may have issues. A dually with a tandem axle trailer loaded with whatever and a registration which has MGW at 8900 pounds is sure to get his attention. And if it is discovered that someone deliberately had the weight ratings changed it then becomes tax evasion. Even though it is listed as a fee.

 

Texas is open carry, passed Jan of 2016.

Shane

 

It's not constitutional open carry which means I had to take a test and pay a fee every five years

 

Good point, but that's really a regional thing that we don't deal with down in the South. Axle spread and bridge is unheard of down here.

I've never seen a non-cdl pickup on scales on the side of the road down here, but I am aware of multiple tickets for not having a Class A license when pulling a dual tandem trailer (usually means 20k rating) with a pick up.

This has gotten much more common down here in the last few years. Used to they never gave it a second look.

 

I change my order to 10000 pounds GVWR today

Thanks

 

Only have to pay the fee online now, no testing for renewals. And the initial classes are only like 4hrs now.

We have axle spread for roads and bridges, you just very rarely see any trucks capable of those weights here that aren't the standard federal sizes or permitted (oversize/overweight) in some other way.

 

I don't want to pay any fee!