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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
Ah... the short bus was on an E-Series chassis, right?

Well, those long busses at auction that you are looking at now, Mr Shark, have blue painted engines I'll bet. Meaning that they are International branded T444e's (on the conventional cab versions). And those all have bellowed up pipes. I know, because I saw those being built at Navistar's engine plant in 2001.

Riffraff charges what, $539 for IH Upipes rattle canned black?

You could take that $500, buy a bus for $277, have it delivered for $300, and have an extra engine to go along with your genuine International bellowed up pipes. Plus a sellable transmission, heavy duty rear end, several tons of scrap metal, and a bunch of seats.
I didn't know that bellowed up pipes was part of that package. The buses today are all going for $1000 and up and I have let them slide but there are a couple more next week. You're really helping me sell the idea on the Mrs. Keep up the good work.
 
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IH built all of the IH branded motors with bellowed up pipes. The stiff pipe sliding and swelling in the donut was unique to Ford versions, as a way to cut production costs.
 
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
Riffraff charges what, $539 for IH Upipes rattle canned black?
Let's discuss this part a little. Do you think that they are just paint bombed black and not ceramic coated? How much should it cost to buy the uncoated version and take them to a coating outfit and have them done?
 
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Let's discuss this part a little. Do you think that they are just paint bombed black and not ceramic coated? How much should it cost to buy the uncoated version and take them to a coating outfit and have them done?
Well, I did not want to go here, but, according to Clay, he ships entire pallets of uppipes to a shop that "dips" them in the ceramic coating. When I last inquired about the coated uppipes he stated that he was out of stock and it would be approximately 3-4 weeks before he would be able to fill any orders for the coated version. We could not wait. He then shipped a set of uncoated IH uppipes to us and they arrived three days later. That kind of speaks for itself.

I then called JetHot Jet-Hot High Performance Coatings and was quoted $75 per uppipe to coat. You could call and see if you can get a better deal.
 
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I know when I bought a set of ceramic coated International up-pipes from Riffraff for a buddy they weren't painted, they were coated including the collector. Ceramic is totally different and you could tell the parts had been blasted and baked.
 
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Thanks for that input. They were out when I looked at them and I expected that they would be good quality as that is what has built his business on but you never know. I thought that the coated price was a bit steep but if it costs that much to have them done by a local vendor his price is good.
 
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Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
Let's discuss this part a little. Do you think that they are just paint bombed black and not ceramic coated?

I have the exact same question. Hence the "?" after my question. It wasn't the price in question, as that is self evident and instantly discoverable on the website.

I have several rattle cans of Ceramic high heat paint. The cans say "Ceramic" all over them. Rated to 1500 degrees. Not VHT either... another brand, name escapes me as I type this. Anyway, since I have purchased and used that ceramic paint, and have baked painted parts in my 3ft long, 2ft wide welding rod oven, it sounded plausible when I read another post a couple years back stating that Riff Raff uppies were "ceramic coated" this way.

But I wasn't sure, hence I put a question mark. I've seen and touched brand new out of the box Riff Raff black ceramic coated uppies, and they didn't look or feel any different to me than the results that I get (or ghetto) by with using a rattle can. Then again, since the pipes were new and not mine, I didn't do a scratch or scuff test to see how well the coating adhered.

So yes, I wondered the same thing... ever since I read that post and saw the new up pipes myself. Hence the question mark.
 
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I wonder if they have the International water pump with the filter?
 
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I wonder if they have the International water pump with the filter?
I don't know but I could run up there and check. If it does are you interested in it? We can iron out a price and I'll factor it into my next round of bidding.
 
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Originally Posted by Walleye Hunter
I don't know but I could run up there and check. If it does are you interested in it? We can iron out a price and I'll factor it into my next round of bidding.
That is quite a generous offer, but my water pump is okay as far as I know. I've seen the IH as a desirable upgrade- on my list of "if I ever have to change that" LOL

Not sure if it would work, but here is an informative thread I read about it: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ater-pump.html


If you lived a little closer, I wouldn't mind giving you a hand with some of these- especially if you have a nice air conditioned garage with remote overhead crane and robotic arms to control from my smart phone, LOL
 
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