ST tires upgraded to LTs, your experiences and comments please.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #31  
Old 07-25-2016, 09:05 PM
WE3ZS's Avatar
WE3ZS
WE3ZS is online now
World Famous Mod
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Media PA
Posts: 11,380
Received 833 Likes on 572 Posts
Originally Posted by bigredtruckmi
Just let us know what you decide with pics.


Absolutely!
I plan to keep this thread up to date with any of the choices I do make and the reasoning behind those picks. And of course some feedback after the upgrade.
 
  #32  
Old 07-25-2016, 10:10 PM
ExxWhy's Avatar
ExxWhy
ExxWhy is online now
Logistics Pro
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 4,924
Received 2,109 Likes on 560 Posts
I'm always happy to help people spend money. Very interested in your final choices since I will be making a similar upgrade.

I had a set of these on my old trailer, my brother also has a set on his trailer. Wheel Details - Discount Tire Direct

Not sure where I saw the specs, but they have a slight offset. It was within the tolerance that Dexter calls for. Not sure what pressure the 8 lug version is rated for either.
 
  #33  
Old 07-31-2016, 08:32 PM
CaptnJohn's Avatar
CaptnJohn
CaptnJohn is offline
Junior User
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Magnolia Tom
Tom

Check the inflation charts for the g614 or Sailun s637. I think that even if you only inflate to 80 psi, you will be around the same load capacity as your LR E tires. I think g614 at 80 lbs has a 3050 lb load capacity. I think that's about the same as load range E at max inflation.


You may be correct on underinflated G614 tires at 3050# load capacity. However, Carlisle 235/85/16 LR E is rated at 3640# at 80# psi ~~ almost 600# more. Their 235/80/16 LR E is rated at 3520 at 80# psi ~~ nearly 500# more.
Radial Trail RH Trailer Tire
 
  #34  
Old 09-07-2016, 04:30 AM
65cobra's Avatar
65cobra
65cobra is offline
Freshman User
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have a 2013 Sierra 5th wheel. 43' bunkhouse. The factory rims are aluminum 6 lug. Factory tires were MasterTrack ST 235/80R16. Running 80 psi I popped my first tire last trip. I think I was lucky that when the tread separated it wrapped around the axle instead of tearing up the trailer. One small dent that I can live with. Of course unwrapping it on the side of the highway was interesting....
So my question is how do I tell what pressure the rims will hold? I would like to go with a higher load rating but if I'm limited to 80 psi is there any point?
 
  #35  
Old 09-07-2016, 06:29 AM
Magnolia Tom's Avatar
Magnolia Tom
Magnolia Tom is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Magnolia, TX
Posts: 646
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Look on the back of one of the rims. It should be stamped onto the rim what max psi the rim can handle.
 
  #36  
Old 09-07-2016, 08:23 AM
Irelands child's Avatar
Irelands child
Irelands child is offline
Fleet Mechanic
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,896
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 6 Posts
As noted, either stamped on the back side or possibly a sticker on the rim, covered by the tire as were the wheels on our last 5er. You will also need solid bolt in valve stems. Standard LTs should be fine if it's a triple axle trailer - the best are Michelin or Bridgestone ribs but be prepared for sticker shock.
 
  #37  
Old 03-22-2017, 08:52 AM
WE3ZS's Avatar
WE3ZS
WE3ZS is online now
World Famous Mod
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Media PA
Posts: 11,380
Received 833 Likes on 572 Posts
I finally made the changes to my trailer tire situation (and then some ) and wanted to thank everyone here for all of the great info and ideas.


I ordered 4 new 8 lug hubs that will fit on my current axle spindles. (Thanks Eric!) https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hub...866UC3-EZ.html


Those new 8 lug hubs will let me mount rims that will handle up to 110 PSI for heavier duty tires. I ordered 5 of these wheels. 16x6 in T02 Aluminum Trailer Wheel 8 Lug, 3750 lb Max Load, Free Shipping.



Since my local tire guy couldn't get the Sailun S637s through any of the 7 wholesale distributors he works with (they aren't stocked in the Mid-Atlantic currently) I had to source them from Trailer Tires and Wheels in Ohio, same place I had bought the new wheels from earlier. All 5 tires have build dates from Nov '16.

Since I'm going to be making these upgrades to the hubs/wheels/tires I figured I might as well keep going and upgrade to heavier shackles and wet bolts with bronze bushings with this MorRyde kit.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=AHSEAWK2CKAVE"><span style=https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=AHSEAWK2CKAVE" /> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=AHSEAWK2CKAVE">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=AHSEAWK2CKAVE


I'm contemplating building a shock kit for the TT also, still looking around at existing setups to copy.



I was fortunate that our TT had 6" between the tires and just enough space over them to fit the slightly taller Sailuns (ST 235/80R16 = 30.8" vs ST225/75R15 = 28.3" stockers) without any contact to the TT body. We just returned from a 1660 mile tow trip with no issues and our X chocks still fit between the tires and work correctly.

The original tires and wheels.
Name:  IMG_20170221_103224_zpsifrf8puk.jpg
Views: 262
Size:  330.3 KB


The new stuff.
Name:  IMG_20170222_155511_zpsqfwu5m4y.jpg
Views: 231
Size:  315.4 KB


The new heavy duty shackles and wet bolts with a stock shackle for comparison.
Name:  IMG_20170222_130238_zpscsdjws4p.jpg
Views: 252
Size:  295.6 KB


The new bronze bushings vs the original plastic bushings.
Name:  IMG_20170222_160756_zps2qeryrwg.jpg
Views: 236
Size:  269.9 KB


And my lovely Bride learned how to pack bearings!
Name:  IMG_20170222_094019_zpsdbxzxg19.jpg
Views: 212
Size:  296.2 KB
 
  #38  
Old 03-22-2017, 09:22 AM
ExxWhy's Avatar
ExxWhy
ExxWhy is online now
Logistics Pro
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Ohio
Posts: 4,924
Received 2,109 Likes on 560 Posts
Like that shackle kit, I think you just cost me 90 bucks! I guess that's only fair since I helped you spend a bit more yourself.

Can't see in the pic, but I assume what looks like a missing lug nut is a locking nut?

Nice choice on the wheels, very close to original. Hopefully this will give you some worry free miles, a first class upgrade!
 
  #39  
Old 03-22-2017, 09:38 AM
Irelands child's Avatar
Irelands child
Irelands child is offline
Fleet Mechanic
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,896
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 6 Posts
Looks like you did it the right way.

Instead of a shock kit (Lippert or Dexter) why not look into one of the bolt on MORryde kits. Our 5er has the CRE3000 but there is one a bit higher in capacity, SRE4000 that I'm 'lusting' after for our 5er. http://www.morryde.com/products/88-s...2F4-suspension
 
  #40  
Old 03-22-2017, 09:42 AM
WE3ZS's Avatar
WE3ZS
WE3ZS is online now
World Famous Mod
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Media PA
Posts: 11,380
Received 833 Likes on 572 Posts
Originally Posted by ExxWhy
Like that shackle kit, I think you just cost me 90 bucks! I guess that's only fair since I helped you spend a bit more yourself.

Can't see in the pic, but I assume what looks like a missing lug nut is a locking nut?

Nice choice on the wheels, very close to original. Hopefully this will give you some worry free miles, a first class upgrade!




Yeah, you did cost me more Eric, but it was well worth the upgrade, we can now call it even!
The "missing" lug nuts are actually there but they are the standard open ended nuts, not the fancy stainless capped ones like the rest. That was an oops on my part, never gave any thought to increasing the number of lugs vs how many fancy nuts I had. 8 New nuts have been bought and installed since those pics, so it looks finished now.
 
  #41  
Old 03-22-2017, 09:48 AM
WE3ZS's Avatar
WE3ZS
WE3ZS is online now
World Famous Mod
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Media PA
Posts: 11,380
Received 833 Likes on 572 Posts
Originally Posted by Irelands child
Looks like you did it the right way.

Instead of a shock kit (Lippert or Dexter) why not look into one of the bolt on MORryde kits. Our 5er has the CRE3000 but there is one a bit higher in capacity, SRE4000 that I'm 'lusting' after for our 5er. SRE4000 Suspension System - MORryde Products


Thanks!
We have the CRE3000 on the TT currently, I have plenty of other projects that aren't getting done so the shocks may be a while before they make it to the top of the list.
Name:  IMG_20170224_153812_zpspaats3im.jpg
Views: 220
Size:  306.6 KB
 
  #42  
Old 03-22-2017, 10:50 AM
scraprat's Avatar
scraprat
scraprat is online now
Lead Driver
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Itinerant
Posts: 7,072
Received 2,496 Likes on 1,305 Posts
Originally Posted by WE3ZS
Thanks!
We have the CRE3000 on the TT currently, I have plenty of other projects that aren't getting done so the shocks may be a while before they make it to the top of the list.
wow, let's put a little grease in the fitings.
 
  #43  
Old 03-22-2017, 11:06 AM
WE3ZS's Avatar
WE3ZS
WE3ZS is online now
World Famous Mod
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Media PA
Posts: 11,380
Received 833 Likes on 572 Posts
Originally Posted by scraprat
wow, let's put a little grease in the fitings.


I'm an overgreaser, admitting the problem is the first step to recovery.
In my defense, with the fresh installation and it being the initial grease application into the wet bolts/bushings I did go a little extra just to ensure that enough grease made it's way into the joints. I think I got them pretty well lubed.
 
  #44  
Old 03-22-2017, 11:15 AM
scraprat's Avatar
scraprat
scraprat is online now
Lead Driver
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Itinerant
Posts: 7,072
Received 2,496 Likes on 1,305 Posts
I see that and I get flashbacks from when my helpers would grease the equipment which I used in the woods and for days later it seemed I couldn't walk by the equipment without having grease somewhere on my cloths.
 
  #45  
Old 03-22-2017, 01:44 PM
Stewart_H's Avatar
Stewart_H
Stewart_H is offline
Super Moderator
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Central Coast of CA
Posts: 29,376
Received 86 Likes on 79 Posts
Originally Posted by WE3ZS
I finally made the changes to my trailer tire situation (and then some ) and wanted to thank everyone here for all of the great info and ideas.
Wooo hoo! I got all excited and saw this post and figured, "Well alright! If I cut the original post, and add this post to the new thread, with a few tweeks we can have a new 'how-to' for the knowledge base" when I realized this aint the Ex forum! You're a mod here, you can do the necessary adjustments to make a new thread for the tech folder!

Stewart

PS - Great job! I'm sure you have more pics of the removal and installation of the upgraded hubs and shackles, yes?
 


Quick Reply: ST tires upgraded to LTs, your experiences and comments please.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:50 PM.