Any Creative Ideas for LEGALLY Disposing of Old Diesel Fuel...
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#64
I found out that the truck has been sitting closer to 8 years. After seeing this fuel and the condition of everything else I would have to agree with you. I think the fear of the unknown kinda takes over. The fear of doing damage to an engine one is not familiar with. This experience does make me wonder if anyone here has actually experienced Diesel gone bad, and what the heck would actually cause it?
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in some of the warmer more humid states there is the opportunity for algae to grow in the fuel. i have seen it in north carolina in the summer. i don't know how long the fuel sat though.
the 20 +year old fuel i am using is finally starting to get a little dark in color. it may be dirt in the bottom of the tank getting stirred up, or it may just finally be getting old. either way i have not had any problems with it in either of my trucks.
the 20 +year old fuel i am using is finally starting to get a little dark in color. it may be dirt in the bottom of the tank getting stirred up, or it may just finally be getting old. either way i have not had any problems with it in either of my trucks.
#66
I run ATF but if you pull my bank transactions you can see all i ever get diesel from is shell or speed way...I keep all my fuel transactions just incase momma government wants to pull some stupid crap like this...
#68
Wow, I would never thought of tackling it that way... Im going to have to think that one over. Pull the bed to get to the fuel tank... sounds kinda weird. But it does make since. I hate to admit it but my head is spinning with working and the research on this truck. Is the Hutch thing just to get all the fuel out of the truck? I just havent had time to look over the link you sent me on that yet, Im wondering if I should just get the thing running first an then look into the Hutch thing? I was thinking about dropping the tank anyway and pressure
washing it out?
washing it out?
Unplugged the wire Harnes, removed 8 bolts, removed hose clamps on fill tube and two of us set it back far enough to set partially on the rear tires and the back bumper.
#69
I pulled my bed, I found that much easier than trying to drain the tank, dropping the tank, and then trying to connect the dots getting it back under the truck.
Unplugged the wire Harnes, removed 8 bolts, removed hose clamps on fill tube and two of us set it back far enough to set partially on the rear tires and the back bumper.
Unplugged the wire Harnes, removed 8 bolts, removed hose clamps on fill tube and two of us set it back far enough to set partially on the rear tires and the back bumper.
#70
I've had the diesel go bad on me. It was with my 89 idi, burnt through 7 fuel filters on the darn thing on two tanks of fuel before I learned of the microbial growth. It was really expensive, for a 17 year old. Then a few years ago at a previous employer the microbe struck again in the bulk tank we filled all our diesel tractors and mowers out of. Difference there was with the higher, relative to an idi, pressure off the lift pumps in the equipment and the company always demanding the cheapest in filtration technology. The microbes made it past the filters. Replaced a couple (4) injection pumps, some injectors. It cost about$14,000. All becaus the company refused to buy a$25 bottle of biocide and pre filter the fuel after the first one went down.
The moral of the story is the microbe doesn't go bang, it should never make it through your filter. But if it does I'm not sure it will pass through the injectors. It didn't on the cummins 4bts and Japanese diesels in the equipment. at work. I personally run a maintenance dose of biocide in all of my own diesels.
FWIW, live, and have always lived in the great snowy white north tundra of Minnesota. It's not just heat and humidity that causes the problem, it's temperature swing causing condensation to form on the inside of your tank walls. That will give you enough moisture to cause problems. Then all you need is one contaminated tank of fuel. Best thing to do is kill it and filter it out. And if it's going to sit make sure the tank is full, full tanks have less area surface area for water to condense.
P's your fuel looks good. I would run it.
The moral of the story is the microbe doesn't go bang, it should never make it through your filter. But if it does I'm not sure it will pass through the injectors. It didn't on the cummins 4bts and Japanese diesels in the equipment. at work. I personally run a maintenance dose of biocide in all of my own diesels.
FWIW, live, and have always lived in the great snowy white north tundra of Minnesota. It's not just heat and humidity that causes the problem, it's temperature swing causing condensation to form on the inside of your tank walls. That will give you enough moisture to cause problems. Then all you need is one contaminated tank of fuel. Best thing to do is kill it and filter it out. And if it's going to sit make sure the tank is full, full tanks have less area surface area for water to condense.
P's your fuel looks good. I would run it.
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#73
Only problem will be if the clip nuts for the bed bolts spin or break. Heating them will usually break them free but if the one above the tank is a problem then your back to dropping the tank anyway. This is what happened to me. They all came out except the 2 front ones. I ended up dropping the tank then welding the nuts to the frame cause the clips broke.
Put anti seize on the bolts going back in so maybe next time won't be so bad.
#74
You can also just take out all except the back 2 bolts, which you just loosen, and jack the front of the bed in the air. Then no disconnecting or lifting required. I was by myself so this worked well. using 2 by's of different lengths on your floor jack and blocks to set on the frame as safety stops to keep the bed from falling it was doable alone.
Only problem will be if the clip nuts for the bed bolts spin or break. Heating them will usually break them free but if the one above the tank is a problem then your back to dropping the tank anyway. This is what happened to me. They all came out except the 2 front ones. I ended up dropping the tank then welding the nuts to the frame cause the clips broke.
Put anti seize on the bolts going back in so maybe next time won't be so bad.
Only problem will be if the clip nuts for the bed bolts spin or break. Heating them will usually break them free but if the one above the tank is a problem then your back to dropping the tank anyway. This is what happened to me. They all came out except the 2 front ones. I ended up dropping the tank then welding the nuts to the frame cause the clips broke.
Put anti seize on the bolts going back in so maybe next time won't be so bad.
#75
Lots of ways to skin those cats guys. All great info and ideas. So I have the old Dodge 3500 diesel up for sale. I ended up taking all the fresh fuel out of the Dodge to replace the old fuel in the Ford leaving Dodge dry!!! I gotta fire it off to show folks that the dodge runs. So in goes the eight year old diesel into the Dodge... Fired right up, sounds great, and stinks just like it always has! I'm going to miss this old Pig!
Oh Wow, Just noticed Ive been here for 2 weeks and Im a "Senior User" already! Guess I had better slow down on this stuff.
Oh Wow, Just noticed Ive been here for 2 weeks and Im a "Senior User" already! Guess I had better slow down on this stuff.