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Old 07-12-2016, 07:59 PM
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T98 Transmission Mount on 1951 F2 Chassis

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I am putting a 254 with a T98 on an F2 frame however all the holes line up but 1... I find this odd cause I figure it should be a bolt-on swap (I am probably wrong) If I do line up the transmission bolts the engine will sit at an angle...Theres a lot of knowledge on here so maybe someone can chime in!



 
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That is odd!. I would think it would fit just fine as far as lining up mounting bolt holes also.
Seems like member Scotty's 52 f3. Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - View Profile: Scotty's 52 F3
Was going to or did put a t98 in his truck.
I thought it bolted up but he ran into a different issue with clearance somewhere.
Im interested in this as well as ive slated a t98 for my f2 as well. I wouldnt think it would matter wether its a 254 or the 239 either.
Are the front mounts tweaked on the frame or on the engine wrong somehow. Does The 6 cylinder have two lefts or two right side mounts or something like that bolted on? Im not even sure if thats possible?
 
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Check the rear foot on the T98 transmission. They are prone to breaking, It may be cracked and bent back. I had to weld mine. It should be a bolt in fit. The rear foot on an F4-F6 T98 transmission is about 5/16" taller than one for a F2-F3, but it shouldn't be a problem.
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I pulled it out of 1950 F6 and it sat in there like a glove. However; I just checked it and appears the passenger mount is bent forward but not cracked, I cleaned all the grease off. Are these forged or castings? If it's forged I think I might be able to heat it up and bend it and let it air cool at its own pace.
 
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Old 07-12-2016, 09:15 PM
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They are cast iron, so if it bent it is probably cracked.
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Well shoot that puts a major halt to my project... Thanks guys for the input though.
 
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I have issues with the trans sitting higher and the trans cover not fitting. I did have to loosen the engine mounts to get it all to line up easier.

I plan on modifying or grinding the rear mount to let the trans sit a little lower in the rear.
 
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Old 07-13-2016, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Scotty's 52 F3
I have issues with the trans sitting higher and the trans cover not fitting. I did have to loosen the engine mounts to get it all to line up easier.

I plan on modifying or grinding the rear mount to let the trans sit a little lower in the rear.

Good info. Im going to need to do something as well then. But maybe ill wait for your results first!
The other issue i would have is my f2 Marmon Herrington has the double cardon ujoint right behind the trans about 4- 5inches or so in length before mating up with the transfer case. So i definitly dont want to mess with all that mounting locations, unless having a bit more deflection in the joint wont cause any problems? Im a ways away from mock up stage though so ive got time.
 
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Hope this helps.
 
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Thanks Scotty for the pictures. I will have to see how she sits when I put the cab down this weekend. I did notice my pulley hits the crossmember. Maybe my engine sits too low up front..
 
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That's another thing. The rear sitting higher made my fan hit the shroud at the bottom. I put in new front mounts and had to tighten the belt to get more room.

Sometimes it the little stuff that gets ya.

Mine is fine for now. I will address the mount and floor clearance when I get closer to body work and the cab comes off.
 
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Originally Posted by 49fordv8f4
Check the rear foot on the T98 transmission. They are prone to breaking, It may be cracked and bent back. I had to weld mine. It should be a bolt in fit. The rear foot on an F4-F6 T98 transmission is about 5/16" taller than one for a F2-F3, but it shouldn't be a problem.
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So if you had to weld yours up do you think one could be cut and shortened the 3/4" and re-welded?
 
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So if you had to weld yours up do you think one could be cut and shortened the 3/4" and re-welded?
I don't know why it couldn't be done. I think it is between 5/16" and 3/8" difference between the F2-3 and F4-6 mounts. Ironically I had to shim my transmission up as my transmission must be from a F2 or F3.
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Originally Posted by Scotty's 52 F3
That's another thing. The rear sitting higher made my fan hit the shroud at the bottom. I put in new front mounts and had to tighten the belt to get more room.

Sometimes it the little stuff that gets ya.

Mine is fine for now. I will address the mount and floor clearance when I get closer to body work and the cab comes off.
I figure if I put new mounts on it should help the old ones are worn bad. I will be really curious to see how the engine sits though this weekend...if I can get my bracket fixed. I may be welding it..
 
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I'm curious about the different height T-98 rear mount / rear bearing retainer. When I dug through the 48-56 Ford Truck Parts Catalog it only had one part number for the 48-52 part. I'm guessing that the difference is simply loose tolerances on the parts when manufactured. These transmissions were only offered in F-4, F-5, and F-6 trucks when new and they all use the same transmission cross member. Thoughts?
 


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