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Old 06-28-2016, 10:21 AM
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Power steering for Henry

In preparation of having the new front end mounted, I am in the process of mounting up the power steering pump. So off to the local U-Pull-It. I know I have a 351W but the exact year is a mystery since the manifold has been changed and I did not see the code on the block so I sort of shooting in the dark.

But what I did find was a pump system from a '79 F-250 with 302.


The bracket that mounts to the water pump (pn E2BC-3C511-AA) fits well but is a bit short at the top. If the bracket was 2" longer, I think the pump would mount up the the head. The cast aluminum bracket that the pump is mounted in looks right. So has anybody put PS on a 351W that can direct me in the right direction as to what brackets I might need?

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In preparation of having the new front end mounted, I am in the process of mounting up the power steering pump. So off to the local U-Pull-It. I know I have a 351W but the exact year is a mystery since the manifold has been changed and I did not see the code on the block so I sort of shooting in the dark.

But what I did find was a pump system from a '79 F-250 with 302.


The bracket that mounts to the water pump (pn E2BC-3C511-AA) fits well but is a bit short at the top. If the bracket was 2" longer, I think the pump would mount up the the head. The cast aluminum bracket that the pump is mounted in looks right. So has anybody put PS on a 351W that can direct me in the right direction as to what brackets I might need?

Thanks!
Mr. Ed
Update. While sitting around twiddling my thumbs, I decided to see how good (or bad) the pump would fit if I had the correct bracket. So I tried to mount the pump to the block but it won't fit. It hits the inner fender. So I need a thinner pump that will fit in front of the head rather than beside it like the one pictured as well as brackets. HELP!

Later!
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Old 06-28-2016, 06:39 PM
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The engine code on the 351w is above the starter and under the lip of the block if you are looking for it. The number will start with a letter,...C for 1960's, D for 1970's and so on. The number following that would be the year. The pump you describe is probably from the 80's. I fabricated my own brackets for my 351 w but I using the Saginaw pump. Here's a couple pictures if your interested.

 

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Old 06-29-2016, 07:53 AM
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Thanks Earl. Your photo confirms my suspicions that the Saginaw pump is a must for the 351 to keep in in front of the engine. Off to the U-Pull-It for another try.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Ed
In preparation of having the new front end mounted, I am in the process of mounting up the power steering pump. So off to the local U-Pull-It. I know I have a 351W but the exact year is a mystery since the manifold has been changed and I did not see the code on the block so I sort of shooting in the dark.

But what I did find was a pump system from a '79 F-250 with 302.
No such thing!

The bracket that mounts to the water pump (ID Engineering Number: E2BC-3C511-AA = Ford part number: E2BZ-3C511-A) fits well but is a bit short at the top.

If the bracket was 2" longer, I think the pump would mount up the the head. The cast aluminum bracket that the pump is mounted in looks right.

So has anybody put PS on a 351W that can direct me in the right direction as to what brackets I might need?
No F250 came w/a 302 until 1980.

This C-II P/S pump was introduced in 1978 on everything except Econolines and Passenger Cars with Hydro-Boost (both used the Saginaw P/S pump).

It has a plastic reservoir, the P/S pressure hose connects to the pump w/a qwik connect fitting.

E2BZ-3C511-A (replaced D8OZ-3C511-A) .. P/S Pump Support Bracket / Obsolete

1978/79 LTD II (not an LTD!)/Cougar/Thunderbird/Ranchero 302 / 1978/79 F100/150 302 / 1980 Granada/Monarch 302 w/o A/C / 1980/82 Fairmont/Zephyr 255/302 w/o A/C

1980/86 F100/250 & Bronco 255 (F100/150 only)/302 / 1981 Granada 255/302 w/o A/C

Note: The P/S pump used 1967/77 is the Ford/Thompson "pencil neck" pump, it has a steel reservoir.

The P/S pressure hose threads onto the pump. The brackets used beginning in 1978 with the C-II pump will not fit the Ford/Thompson P/S pump.
 
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:38 AM
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Thanks Bill. You must be psychic. I was going to ask for your help. So just to be clear, I need the E2BZ-3C511-A bracket, with a Saginaw pump right?

And you are correct on the junk yard truck. I thought the 302 was a transplant because the radiator support says the engine is a 300.

Thanks!
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Thanks Bill. You must be psychic. I was going to ask for your help. So just to be clear, I need the E2BZ-3C511-A bracket, with a Saginaw pump right?
No Saginaw pump!

I never said a word about using the Saginaw P/S pump.

What I did say: The C-II P/S pump was introduced in 1978 on everything except Econolines and Passenger Cars with Hydro-Boost (both used the Saginaw pump).
 
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