Rear Sag in 2016 F250
#16
My '12' was the same way put some weight in it and it would sag.
I installed these Truck Camper Suspension - truck sway - truck sag - reduce camper roll | StableLoad
That was when I first got the truck it has 105K miles on it now carrying weight and they've been engaged from the day I put them on. The truck sits level no matter how much weight is put in it and handles great. Easy install of just removing the rear tires taking the weight of the springs by jacking the truck and then installing the Stable_loads an hour or so tops.
I installed these Truck Camper Suspension - truck sway - truck sag - reduce camper roll | StableLoad
That was when I first got the truck it has 105K miles on it now carrying weight and they've been engaged from the day I put them on. The truck sits level no matter how much weight is put in it and handles great. Easy install of just removing the rear tires taking the weight of the springs by jacking the truck and then installing the Stable_loads an hour or so tops.
My 2004 F250 Had Timbrens. Good, but not adjustable and barely adequate.
On my 2015 I added AirLift 5000 Ultimate airbags AND StableLoads.
I think the StableLoads made the biggest/best bang for the buck difference in towing my 13K# 5th wheel (both trucks towed this 5th wheel).
If I had to choose only ONE suspension add-on - between air bags, Timbrens, and StableLoads..... I'd choose StableLoads.
And a good set of shocks. I'm running Rancho RS9000XLs now and I'm happy with them.
#17
#18
Wanted to get everyone's thoughts/feedback on preventing rear sag. I have a 2016 XLT F250 CC 4X4 6.2 that is rated at 2900 pounds payload. The Fords come from the factory with very little rear cant and there lies my problem
I pull a 8000 loaded TT that is usually around 1000 pounds tongue. Yet this is enough to drop the rear end 2-3 inches an have my nose pointed to the sky. So far I have researched timbrens and sumo springs, but am open to other ideas as well.
DISCLAIMER - Really not interested in rear bags or an add a leaf as I only tow this trailer 5-6 times a year and the rest of the year the truck is usually empty.
I pull a 8000 loaded TT that is usually around 1000 pounds tongue. Yet this is enough to drop the rear end 2-3 inches an have my nose pointed to the sky. So far I have researched timbrens and sumo springs, but am open to other ideas as well.
DISCLAIMER - Really not interested in rear bags or an add a leaf as I only tow this trailer 5-6 times a year and the rest of the year the truck is usually empty.
#19
+1 for the StableLoads.
My 2004 F250 Had Timbrens. Good, but not adjustable and barely adequate.
On my 2015 I added AirLift 5000 Ultimate airbags AND StableLoads.
I think the StableLoads made the biggest/best bang for the buck difference in towing my 13K# 5th wheel (both trucks towed this 5th wheel).
If I had to choose only ONE suspension add-on - between air bags, Timbrens, and StableLoads..... I'd choose StableLoads.
And a good set of shocks. I'm running Rancho RS9000XLs now and I'm happy with them.
My 2004 F250 Had Timbrens. Good, but not adjustable and barely adequate.
On my 2015 I added AirLift 5000 Ultimate airbags AND StableLoads.
I think the StableLoads made the biggest/best bang for the buck difference in towing my 13K# 5th wheel (both trucks towed this 5th wheel).
If I had to choose only ONE suspension add-on - between air bags, Timbrens, and StableLoads..... I'd choose StableLoads.
And a good set of shocks. I'm running Rancho RS9000XLs now and I'm happy with them.
#20
Air bags were less than $400.00 and adjustable.
#21
I did the 4 inch block swap on my dually. I wish I didnt because I have horrible axle wrap. I tried shimming the carrier bearing but that just caused the drive shaft in front of the carrier bearing that goes to the transfer case to be at an angle that causes vibration worse than the axle wrap. If I was keeping this truck, I would go back to the 2 inch block and then add air bags.
#22
+1 for the StableLoads.
My 2004 F250 Had Timbrens. Good, but not adjustable and barely adequate.
On my 2015 I added AirLift 5000 Ultimate airbags AND StableLoads.
I think the StableLoads made the biggest/best bang for the buck difference in towing my 13K# 5th wheel (both trucks towed this 5th wheel).
If I had to choose only ONE suspension add-on - between air bags, Timbrens, and StableLoads..... I'd choose StableLoads.
And a good set of shocks. I'm running Rancho RS9000XLs now and I'm happy with them.
My 2004 F250 Had Timbrens. Good, but not adjustable and barely adequate.
On my 2015 I added AirLift 5000 Ultimate airbags AND StableLoads.
I think the StableLoads made the biggest/best bang for the buck difference in towing my 13K# 5th wheel (both trucks towed this 5th wheel).
If I had to choose only ONE suspension add-on - between air bags, Timbrens, and StableLoads..... I'd choose StableLoads.
And a good set of shocks. I'm running Rancho RS9000XLs now and I'm happy with them.
Are you guys using the lower wedges (A7310), the upper spacers (A7200), or both?
Trying to gather constructive information.
Thanks
#24
I have been debating between air bags or Stable Loads & I am seriously considering going with the Stable Loads on my 2016 F250 4x4. It sags more than I had hoped with my 5th wheel hooked up, although it does not bottom out or ride rough when towing it. It actually tows it very good.
Are you guys using the lower wedges (A7310), the upper spacers (A7200), or both?
Trying to gather constructive information.
Thanks
Are you guys using the lower wedges (A7310), the upper spacers (A7200), or both?
Trying to gather constructive information.
Thanks
#26
On my 2000, I made spacers that gave me about 1/4 inch to the overload springs on just the rear end of the springs, basically a solid timbres. Had the material so it was free. Did not want to spend the money for the timbres for a truck I would be selling in a year or so. Ride was slightly rougher, but no squat. Had more squat than I liked even with the WDH before I made the spacers. I'd vote for the timbres.
#27
I went with airbags on mine. Very happy with them. Nice thing about airbags is you can adjust the leveling depending on the amount of load and squat you are dealing with. And if you're not carrying any load, you can air them down and it just rides on the normal stock suspension.
Here is our 5th wheel with 2500 on the pin, stock suspension:
Here is same load, same pin weight, with Firestone airbags and 40 psi in the bags:
Here is our 5th wheel with 2500 on the pin, stock suspension:
Here is same load, same pin weight, with Firestone airbags and 40 psi in the bags:
#28
#29
I also have a 6.2 with the softest VVFF code suspension that came on an F-250 which I'm sure is contributing to the problem.
#30
I went with airbags on mine. Very happy with them. Nice thing about airbags is you can adjust the leveling depending on the amount of load and squat you are dealing with. And if you're not carrying any load, you can air them down and it just rides on the normal stock suspension.
Here is our 5th wheel with 2500 on the pin, stock suspension:
Here is same load, same pin weight, with Firestone airbags and 40 psi in the bags:
Here is our 5th wheel with 2500 on the pin, stock suspension:
Here is same load, same pin weight, with Firestone airbags and 40 psi in the bags: