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Old 06-22-2016, 10:53 AM
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I harken back to the '90's when I purchased a Ranger to supplement my aging F350 flatbed with a 400. Mileage in the 350 was 10-12 loaded or empty. Ranger was over 20. Made the payments with the gas savings and had more to support our Daughter at Syracuse U. Investment in her was best. On the correct trailer the Ranger could pull safely a 3000 lb boat and trailer. Another boat only weighing 1200 lbs on a narrow/high trailer dragged the Ranger all over the road. Same can be said for even twin screw tractor trailers. Cheap suspensions and light frames are a real challenge to drive at highway speeds. Good suspensions and strongly built trucks are safe at highway speeds and above. 80 mph and 80K gross no problem in the right truck. As you said The State is attempting to mandate every aspect of transportation and we as consumers will bear the lack of freedom to pursue our pleasures, or occupations without dear cost to safety and pocketbook.
 
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Old 06-23-2016, 08:10 AM
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I agree. Dropping weight isn't the answer. My current 16 F150 is 700 lbs lighter than the 13 F150 that I had. I hate towing with it. It isn't as stable a my old truck. For this reason I will be going back to a HD truck
 
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Old 06-23-2016, 01:48 PM
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Mine is the best towing truck I have had to date, everyone talks about the new truck being unstable? Not mine
 
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Old 06-23-2016, 02:50 PM
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Mine is the best towing truck I have had to date, everyone talks about the new truck being unstable? Not mine
What truck do you have and what do you tow?

Try towing a 10-11k high profile load with a 15 or 16 aluminum F150.
 
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Old 06-23-2016, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by johndeerefarmer
What truck do you have and what do you tow?

Try towing a 10-11k high profile load with a 15 or 16 aluminum F150.
Why would you want to do that? That just wouldn't be the smart thing to do.

And, if you look in the towing specs for Ford, that's likely out of the specs for the F150. You need to reduce your towing weights as the front surface area of the trailer increases.

http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...0_r1_Jan12.pdf

Frontal Area is the total area in square feet that a moving vehicle and trailer exposes to air resistance. The chart shows the
limitations that must be considered in selecting a vehicle/trailer combination. Exceeding these limitations may significantly reduce the
performance of your towing vehicle. Selecting a trailer with a low-drag, rounded front design can help optimize performance efficiency.
See, Ford touts the max tow rating, but it's up to the customer to use a little common sense and do the proper research to make sure you meet all the specs and not just one. I've seen several of your posts on several forums over the years. Accept the fact you need a Super Duty and buy one.
 
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Old 06-23-2016, 03:46 PM
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And then the weight police shows up.

I have been towing for 38 years and more than likely have more towing experience than you and most of the rest here. Everything from cattle to hay to farm equipment to RV's. . Also have had 3 Super Duties and 6 or more half tons.

The 92 F150 with a 351 V8 struggled with a 10k load- stability wasn't a problem but power was. The 05 SD handled it easily as did the '11 and '13 ecoboosts. It wasn't until Ford lightened them up that issues arise. You might not think so but that 700 lbs that is missing makes a big difference.

If you have been following me around here for years then you should have know that I had a '15 Super Duty before this truck....







QUOTE=fordmantpw;16377545]Why would you want to do that? That just wouldn't be the smart thing to do.

And, if you look in the towing specs for Ford, that's likely out of the specs for the F150. You need to reduce your towing weights as the front surface area of the trailer increases.

http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...0_r1_Jan12.pdf



See, Ford touts the max tow rating, but it's up to the customer to use a little common sense and do the proper research to make sure you meet all the specs and not just one. I've seen several of your posts on several forums over the years. Accept the fact you need a Super Duty and buy one.[/QUOTE]
 
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Old 06-23-2016, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by johndeerefarmer
And then the weight police shows up.
It has nothing to do with being the weight police, but it has to do with explaining how what you are complaining about is ridiculous since it is outside the capabilities of the truck.

Oh, and I haven't 'followed you', I just remember the screen name (I have a JD myself) and the threads about how you wanted an F150 but needed a Super Duty and how you've not been happy with the towing of the F150 though it is definitely outside the realm of what the F150 is intended for.

Oh well, I'm not going to argue about it. Good day!
 
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Old 06-23-2016, 05:59 PM
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If the f150 is so horrible after the weight loss they have a fundemental problem because all the other brands of truck weight about the same now, ford was always overweight compared to others.
 
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Originally Posted by johndeerefarmer
What truck do you have and what do you tow?

Try towing a 10-11k high profile load with a 15 or 16 aluminum F150.
16 screw 5.0 3.55 rear 4x. Tow around 9500 give or take 100 no problems at all
 
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Old 06-23-2016, 08:29 PM
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16 screw 5.0 3.55 rear 4x. Tow around 9500 give or take 100 no problems at all
That would be well above the rated limit for that truck.
 
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Old 06-23-2016, 08:40 PM
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That figure is a guess counting payload and everything actual dead weight of Rv is around 8 with tanks and all so it's up there but im not over to bad if any really
 
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Old 06-23-2016, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Larietpsd
That figure is a guess counting payload and everything actual dead weight of Rv is around 8 with tanks and all so it's up there but im not over to bad if any really
Fair enough, I see 8100 as the towing capacity of your truck, so I guess not too far over.
 
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Old 06-23-2016, 08:57 PM
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Should be 9100 according to my book, who knows I guess
 
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