7.3 IDI no start after new injectors...
#46
Originally Posted by Festus Hagen
It could be, but likely not, they would have to be pretty loose, with the injector end unhooked there is no back pressure, dry/clean them off and see if they are leaking.
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
After that I'm going to charge the battery with my friend's Colorado and see if it starts then, if not, I'll check the injector side connection and if I see nothing there, I may or may not have a mechanic sort it out
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That might be harder then you think, 9 out of 10 mechanics today won't be able to find the Diagnostic port ... Thus unable to help!
FYI, They do not have a diagnostic port ...
A bonus would be if you had two cars and two sets of jumper cables, one for each battery. Though one with a good set of jumper cables should do just fine unless both your batteries are dead!
Triple A could jump it as well ... Just have it assembled to a run-able condition first.
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
FYI, They do not have a diagnostic port ...
A bonus would be if you had two cars and two sets of jumper cables, one for each battery. Though one with a good set of jumper cables should do just fine unless both your batteries are dead!
Triple A could jump it as well ... Just have it assembled to a run-able condition first.
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
#48
Originally Posted by Festus Hagen
That might be harder then you think, 9 out of 10 mechanics today won't be able to find the Diagnostic port ... Thus unable to help!
FYI, They do not have a diagnostic port ...
A bonus would be if you had two cars and two sets of jumper cables, one for each battery. Though one with a good set of jumper cables should do just fine unless both your batteries are dead!
Triple A could jump it as well ... Just have it assembled to a run-able condition first.
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
FYI, They do not have a diagnostic port ...
A bonus would be if you had two cars and two sets of jumper cables, one for each battery. Though one with a good set of jumper cables should do just fine unless both your batteries are dead!
Triple A could jump it as well ... Just have it assembled to a run-able condition first.
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
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Like I said ... White smoke indicates super heated unburnt fuel.
I would really look into the glow plugs.
The poorer the cables the longer it will take, if you can get your hands on another set of cables, double them up. Hold the charging vehicles throttle just above idle.
These trucks take a lot of amps to start, that is why they have dual batteries.
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
I would really look into the glow plugs.
The poorer the cables the longer it will take, if you can get your hands on another set of cables, double them up. Hold the charging vehicles throttle just above idle.
These trucks take a lot of amps to start, that is why they have dual batteries.
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
#50
Originally Posted by Festus Hagen
Like I said ... White smoke indicates super heated unburnt fuel.
I would really look into the glow plugs.
The poorer the cables the longer it will take, if you can get your hands on another set of cables, double them up. Hold the charging vehicles throttle just above idle.
These trucks take a lot of amps to start, that is why they have dual batteries.
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
I would really look into the glow plugs.
The poorer the cables the longer it will take, if you can get your hands on another set of cables, double them up. Hold the charging vehicles throttle just above idle.
These trucks take a lot of amps to start, that is why they have dual batteries.
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
#51
Originally Posted by Festus Hagen
That might be harder then you think, 9 out of 10 mechanics today won't be able to find the Diagnostic port ... Thus unable to help!
FYI, They do not have a diagnostic port ...
A bonus would be if you had two cars and two sets of jumper cables, one for each battery. Though one with a good set of jumper cables should do just fine unless both your batteries are dead!
Triple A could jump it as well ... Just have it assembled to a run-able condition first.
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
FYI, They do not have a diagnostic port ...
A bonus would be if you had two cars and two sets of jumper cables, one for each battery. Though one with a good set of jumper cables should do just fine unless both your batteries are dead!
Triple A could jump it as well ... Just have it assembled to a run-able condition first.
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
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It will take a while to charge it with jumper cables. I'd give it at least a half hour. The best thing to do is put a good battery charger on it but jumper cables should work. If you are getting white smoke and it still doesn't at least try to start don't keep trying, let it charge more. Hold the throttle wide open while cranking. Lots of people use ether and don't blow their engines up. I have never heard of anyone blowing one. If you disable the glow plugs or wait a minute after they quit cycling and give it a small shot of ether it should be fine.
#56
Originally Posted by bashby
It will take a while to charge it with jumper cables. I'd give it at least a half hour. The best thing to do is put a good battery charger on it but jumper cables should work. If you are getting white smoke and it still doesn't at least try to start don't keep trying, let it charge more. Hold the throttle wide open while cranking. Lots of people use ether and don't blow their engines up. I have never heard of anyone blowing one. If you disable the glow plugs or wait a minute after they quit cycling and give it a small shot of ether it should be fine.
It's possible that the batteries just all of a sudden don't have enough juice to crank it?
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I just went back and studied your images ... I see a few things that concern me, but before saying to much, We might not be seeing how it currently is, So if you would, snap three more images:
I see one laying in the valley, looks new!
Get rid of that bolt in the return line used as a plug, use something smooth, even a bolt shank on a long bolt would be better then the threads of that short bolt. Unless I'm missing my guess that it is a shankless threaded bolt!
My bet is your are having multiple issues, all stacking against you.
Low batteries
Glow plugs
Air Intrusion
And must be solved in that order ... It will start with Air intrusion, It just takes good batteries fully charged and good glow plugs.
Remember, If you have air intrusion, every time you walk away and leave it set, the fuel drains back, then you have to pump it back up thus wearing the batteries down even more.
If you do leave it set all day (better yet all night), the first thing to do when you get back is pull the fuel filter and see if it's full, if not, fill it with CLEAN fuel by pouring in the small outer holes, not the big center hole ... You can use a diesel injector cleaner like Diesel Kleen instead of diesel, it will start and run just fine on them ... A bit noisy, but fine.
Ok, Gotta ask ... You did plug the IP back in?
Turn that frustration into a challenge, you'll smack it out of the park and feel so rewarded in the end!
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
- One of the Filter head and IP
- One of each bank of injectors
I see one laying in the valley, looks new!
Get rid of that bolt in the return line used as a plug, use something smooth, even a bolt shank on a long bolt would be better then the threads of that short bolt. Unless I'm missing my guess that it is a shankless threaded bolt!
My bet is your are having multiple issues, all stacking against you.
Low batteries
Glow plugs
Air Intrusion
And must be solved in that order ... It will start with Air intrusion, It just takes good batteries fully charged and good glow plugs.
Remember, If you have air intrusion, every time you walk away and leave it set, the fuel drains back, then you have to pump it back up thus wearing the batteries down even more.
If you do leave it set all day (better yet all night), the first thing to do when you get back is pull the fuel filter and see if it's full, if not, fill it with CLEAN fuel by pouring in the small outer holes, not the big center hole ... You can use a diesel injector cleaner like Diesel Kleen instead of diesel, it will start and run just fine on them ... A bit noisy, but fine.
Ok, Gotta ask ... You did plug the IP back in?
Turn that frustration into a challenge, you'll smack it out of the park and feel so rewarded in the end!
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
#58
Originally Posted by Festus Hagen
I just went back and studied your images ... I see a few things that concern me, but before saying to much, We might not be seeing how it currently is, So if you would, snap three more images:
I see one laying in the valley, looks new!
Get rid of that bolt in the return line used as a plug, use something smooth, even a bolt shank on a long bolt would be better then the threads of that short bolt. Unless I'm missing my guess that it is a shankless threaded bolt!
My bet is your are having multiple issues, all stacking against you.
Low batteries
Glow plugs
Air Intrusion
And must be solved in that order ... It will start with Air intrusion, It just takes good batteries fully charged and good glow plugs.
Remember, If you have air intrusion, every time you walk away and leave it set, the fuel drains back, then you have to pump it back up thus wearing the batteries down even more.
If you do leave it set all day (better yet all night), the first thing to do when you get back is pull the fuel filter and see if it's full, if not fill it with CLEAN fuel by pouring in the small outer holes, not the big center hole ... You can use a diesel injector cleaner like Diesel Kleen instead of diesel, it will start and run just fine on them ... A bit noisy, but fine.
Ok, Gotta ask ... You did plug the IP back in?
Turn that frustration into a challenge, you'll smack it out of the park and feel so rewarded in the end!
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
- One of the Filter head and IP
- One of each bank of injectors
I see one laying in the valley, looks new!
Get rid of that bolt in the return line used as a plug, use something smooth, even a bolt shank on a long bolt would be better then the threads of that short bolt. Unless I'm missing my guess that it is a shankless threaded bolt!
My bet is your are having multiple issues, all stacking against you.
Low batteries
Glow plugs
Air Intrusion
And must be solved in that order ... It will start with Air intrusion, It just takes good batteries fully charged and good glow plugs.
Remember, If you have air intrusion, every time you walk away and leave it set, the fuel drains back, then you have to pump it back up thus wearing the batteries down even more.
If you do leave it set all day (better yet all night), the first thing to do when you get back is pull the fuel filter and see if it's full, if not fill it with CLEAN fuel by pouring in the small outer holes, not the big center hole ... You can use a diesel injector cleaner like Diesel Kleen instead of diesel, it will start and run just fine on them ... A bit noisy, but fine.
Ok, Gotta ask ... You did plug the IP back in?
Turn that frustration into a challenge, you'll smack it out of the park and feel so rewarded in the end!
-Enjoy
fh : )_~
I did remember to plug the IP back in! I was surprised I remembered lol.
And what is the different between shankless and non shankless, I have no idea haha.
Here are the pictures you requested!
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