Question of the Week: Your thoughts on the Chevrolet anti-aluminum ad?
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If they are stupid enough to buy a Chevy they are stupid enough to do things like that to their truck...
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Chevrolet getting desperate
GM will be building aluminum bodied trucks just as soon as they can get the engineering work completed and the dies cast. Just like, well, FORD. GM has ALWAYS played "catch-up" and "Follow the leader" when it comes to Pick-up Trucks! Have you noticed they're introducing turbo-charged engines? You know, exactly the way, uh, FORD has done? How long has Ford had overhead cam and multi-valve V-8 engines, 15 years or more? GM is STILL using old-fashioned, cheaper OHV V-8's ! What type of V-8 design do you think GM will begin use? Perhaps an overhead cam, multi-valve type? You know, like, umm, FORD ? Hmmmm. Do we see a pattern here, or what? -351 Charlie
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All I have to say is it is a video and they can be edited to make them look legitimate..
The pavers used in the Chevy could have had the corners rounded a little or been lighter..
The Toolbox used on the Ford could have been full and the Chevy's empty..
Here is a good article about it..
General Motors' Recent F-150-Bashing Ad Is Laughable -- The Motley Fool
Also did you see the Honda ad that they did??
2017 Honda Ridgeline Throws its Hat Into the Truck Bed Durability Ring
The pavers used in the Chevy could have had the corners rounded a little or been lighter..
The Toolbox used on the Ford could have been full and the Chevy's empty..
Here is a good article about it..
General Motors' Recent F-150-Bashing Ad Is Laughable -- The Motley Fool
Also did you see the Honda ad that they did??
2017 Honda Ridgeline Throws its Hat Into the Truck Bed Durability Ring
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You really think that the workers are getting paid to load rock and brick one at a time?
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GM will be building aluminum bodied trucks just as soon as they can get the engineering work completed and the dies cast. Just like, well, FORD. GM has ALWAYS played "catch-up" and "Follow the leader" when it comes to Pick-up Trucks! Have you noticed they're introducing turbo-charged engines? You know, exactly the way, uh, FORD has done? How long has Ford had overhead cam and multi-valve V-8 engines, 15 years or more? GM is STILL using old-fashioned, cheaper OHV V-8's ! What type of V-8 design do you think GM will begin use? Perhaps an overhead cam, multi-valve type? You know, like, umm, FORD ? Hmmmm. Do we see a pattern here, or what? -351 Charlie
People want a V-8...with a tough bed. Not some Honda Ridgeline wanna be!
There is NOTHING magical about the aluminum body other than the current design isn't as strong as the previous generation. If it were it would have to be 3 times thicker than currently designed.
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And their V-8 is getting EB esq mpg... I guess they must be pretty dumb....
People want a V-8...with a tough bed. Not some Honda Ridgeline wanna be!
There is NOTHING magical about the aluminum body other than the current design isn't as strong as the previous generation. If it were it would have to be 3 times thicker than currently designed.
People want a V-8...with a tough bed. Not some Honda Ridgeline wanna be!
There is NOTHING magical about the aluminum body other than the current design isn't as strong as the previous generation. If it were it would have to be 3 times thicker than currently designed.
Well, well, now, you've made it through the F-150 forum bashing the ecoboost and the aluminum body to the superduty forum doing the same and now you've made your way down here and continuing to insult those who build and buy aluminum trucks and V-6 engines.
The 2016 F-150 is the only truck being built right now with a five star crash rating on all cab configurations.
The 2016 F-150 is the only American branded vehicle that Consumer reports predicts will last for 200,000 miles with minimal issues. Engine choices weren't specified as they all seem to be quite reliable.
There have been numerous posts in the F-150 forum about leaking third brake lights and leaking sat antennas allowing water to penetrate the cab and find it's way into the cab corners and ultimately rust them out. Ford refuses to help as the owner is out of warranty or the perforation can't b e proved as an inside out type of rust. Aluminum will mitigate this.
You've allowed a simple GM commercial to get into your head, Kudos to GM for some ingenious marketing.
I'd imagine that Ram will still build a truck for the purists after GM changes over.
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I only recently saw this commercial on TV and raised an eyebrow myself. I understand that aluminum is softer than the steel that was traditionally used before...but could the bed really "puncture" like they show in the ad, if it were to ever be subjected to such conditions?
If so, couldn't it go to say that if some utterly careless moron that parked next to a new F-150 in a parking lot really let their car door fly open into the door/fender of the truck, the same thing could possibly happen?
I want to believe the Ford engineers actually thought that through and wouldn't produce a vehicle that could so easily get holes punched in it...
If so, couldn't it go to say that if some utterly careless moron that parked next to a new F-150 in a parking lot really let their car door fly open into the door/fender of the truck, the same thing could possibly happen?
I want to believe the Ford engineers actually thought that through and wouldn't produce a vehicle that could so easily get holes punched in it...
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Well, well, now, you've made it through the F-150 forum bashing the ecoboost and the aluminum body to the superduty forum doing the same and now you've made your way down here and continuing to insult those who build and buy aluminum trucks and V-6 engines.
The 2016 F-150 is the only truck being built right now with a five star crash rating on all cab configurations.
The 2016 F-150 is the only American branded vehicle that Consumer reports predicts will last for 200,000 miles with minimal issues. Engine choices weren't specified as they all seem to be quite reliable.
There have been numerous posts in the F-150 forum about leaking third brake lights and leaking sat antennas allowing water to penetrate the cab and find it's way into the cab corners and ultimately rust them out. Ford refuses to help as the owner is out of warranty or the perforation can't b e proved as an inside out type of rust. Aluminum will mitigate this.
You've allowed a simple GM commercial to get into your head, Kudos to GM for some ingenious marketing.
I'd imagine that Ram will still build a truck for the purists after GM changes over.
The 2016 F-150 is the only truck being built right now with a five star crash rating on all cab configurations.
The 2016 F-150 is the only American branded vehicle that Consumer reports predicts will last for 200,000 miles with minimal issues. Engine choices weren't specified as they all seem to be quite reliable.
There have been numerous posts in the F-150 forum about leaking third brake lights and leaking sat antennas allowing water to penetrate the cab and find it's way into the cab corners and ultimately rust them out. Ford refuses to help as the owner is out of warranty or the perforation can't b e proved as an inside out type of rust. Aluminum will mitigate this.
You've allowed a simple GM commercial to get into your head, Kudos to GM for some ingenious marketing.
I'd imagine that Ram will still build a truck for the purists after GM changes over.
I'm a engineer that deals with metal fabrications and applications on a daily basis. I know and understand the design, metalurgy and application of the materials in use.
I grew up as a farm kid and former construction worker. The company I work for uses pickups to deliver smaller fabrications to contruction sites.
I build and restore engines as a hobby. Boosted gas engines = shorter life and lousy fuel economy under load.
The bed as designed in the F150 is not as strong as previous generations! It simply cannot be based on its limited thickness. It needs to be 3 times thicker than current to match the properties of the steel bed it replaced!
GM has simply confirmed what I've been stating for some time. You can agree or disagree how about how they did it, but the facts still remain.
Corrosion IS a problem with aluminum, especially if your cleaners and road clearing agents are slightly caustic. How do you think those spray on bug removers work so well?
My statements have always been based in upon design, and common metalurgy on 6xxx series aluminum principles.
Yet you choose to bash me because I'm speaking based on my materials testing experience.
Rust free 200000 mi working trucks with original equipment are the rule not the exception from all manufacturers. I you can see this at any used car lot.
It's those that live in city's that salt the crap out of the roads that have chassis and body rusting problems. I find it odd that this somehow the manufacturers problem. Aluminum bodied trucks will far a bit better but all of the underpinnings will not and fail even faster.
It's is you who is is being blinded fancy marketing my friend. I'm merely pointing it out.
I'm not so blind of a Ford fan that I'm incapable of calling a spade a spade instead of parroting bs statistics and marketing hyperbole.
Just think it's similar to the thickness of the bed.
I see Ford brought out rebates for the F150 ...makes you wonder if they are trying to divert attention away from their weak bed design.